You better have showed the same level of respect for Terry Prachett you son of a bitch...

Sorry, agree to disagree on this. Mexico was admittedly awesome and Will Ferrell (I feel it in my plums) kills as well, but I never thought it was as evenly great as VP. I just genuinely liked it more.

Vice Principals did NOT get stale: you take that back!

I tell you what that arrangement with Cersei just ain’t right...

I genuinely feel guilty for laughing at this...

Even Kissinger was like “maybe you should dial it back a bit till we get re-elected”

I couldn’t live by that maxim, but I’m also not any level of John Waters awesome of course. 

Oh and John Fucking Waters. Of course.

I instantly want to marry your list. 

My definition of cool would be petulant jerks, as I think the coolest guys are folks like Alex Chilton, Paul Westerberg and Lou Reed. All three of whom could be REAL jerks. But cool jerks. 

Fuck yeah. I’m not a huge Petty fan per se but the guy was clearly awesome as a human being. 

As long as you’re cool with him dating 14 years old and moving a teenage girl into his home, he’s a cool cat.

That’s not true though: O’Toole was literally one of the stars of the ‘West End’ and was considered, like Burton and that wave of actors, the guiding light of English actors.

Peter O’Toole had been in three films and was an acclaimed stage actor before being cast in Lawrence of Arabia though...he wasn’t an unknown per se...

THAT’S the film! I couldn’t remember it off the top of my head, but I remember when it came out and they were trying to plug it as an Ed Wood level film. And to me, exactly like you said, the winks and deliberate method to turn it into a Wood film absolutely ruined it.

I love MST3K and HGL films: it can be two things!

It’s not clever though...it’s  definitely nutty but I think the original ‘intent’ of the script was more the old cliche of ‘All About Eve’ but with more pole dancing

Out of curiosity do you base this on the Oscar worthy acting, brilliant dialog, incredible pacing or sheer breath taking direction?

I would still have known the love of bad movies, but my knowledge and fun with them has been increased exponentially.

I agree. I don’t think Valley was trying in any way to be camp, which is why it’s so fucking fabulous. A camp or ‘bad movie’ lens by deliberate intent (IMO) decreases the greatness in a lot of ways.