Kind of a dark episode, literally and figuratively, but Cisco provided some comic relief as usual. Thank you, Crisco! "We're going to play a game…"

That.Was.Awesome.

The awesomeness of Iris-2 and Caitlin-2 just goes to show that the blame for their not being this awesome on Earth-1 rests squarely on the writers.

Bow ties are cool.

TBH, I didn't hear Patty refer to Iris and Barry as brother and sister, so I might have missed that, but I still consider Patty very much an outsider. She doesn't know the characters as well as the viewers do; she doesn't know all the dynamics at work. As far as Joe calling both Barry and Iris his 'children,' I and…

I don't know where you are (in the world), but here in the USA, I watched it on nbc.com.

Not my brand of humor, I guess, so I didn't laugh much. But I did enjoy it and plan on watching the rest of the miniseries. I agree that both the performances and the visuals were first-rate. I didn't realize this was a miniseries before and wondered how Rob Lowe would be handling both this role and his duties on The…

The Doctor: "Been There. Done That."

"Dinosaurs… on a spaceship!" —The Eleventh Doctor, very gleefully

Or someone (or someones) could have held Savage, subdued or incapacitated Savage first. Or is it impossible to knock him unconscious?

At first I started watching this half of the pilot on its own, but then I decided to watch the first half and then the second. I think that helped.

Again, Patty does not know Barry and Iris well. Anyone who does accepts that Barry and Iris don't have that type of relationship. The only two people who have used that kind of language are basically outsiders, which we, as the viewers who have been watching this show (probably since the beginning) are not.

Name one character from the show (who knows or knew Barry and Iris well; I don't mean strangers) who has referred to them being like brother and sister. I'll wait.

But that's just my point. If Barry's intentions are to protect the people he cares about from getting hurt because of him, he should stay away from all of them, not just—quite randomly, it seems—Patty, a young woman he met only very recently. Why is he more adamant about "protecting" her than he is about protecting…

Well, I disagree with the overall grade, since I felt this episode was much more interesting and much less cringe-inducing than the last one. Didn't like Barry acting pissy with Patty or nearly beating Eobard to death, but I did like the West Side Story.

None of the characters are grossed out by the idea of Barry and Iris in a romantic relationship, whereas they definitely would be if Iris decided to date Wally. ("Hey, we didn't grow up in the same house, so what's the problem?")

She is coming back, I'm sure, but will it be to

He even backed away when she reached out to touch him during their last Barry-Patty conversation.

And yet Eobard spent most of the first season obsessively confirming with Gideon that the timeline leading up to the Flash's disappearance in 2024 remained stable—and it did except for the time Farouk (forgot his villain moniker) stole the Flash's power. After Barry got his powers back that time, the timeline was…

That might make more sense to me if Barry hadn't been on the verge of revealing this information to Patty in the previous episode. He denies being the Flash outright, why? Because then she would know and stay? But wouldn't that have been the case if he had told her before she announced her intention to leave town? By…