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I've seen Diana give that answer multiple times in interviews and in every single one she's always said the torture and rape of Jamie - not Claire. I haven't seen the video, I'm sure she says 'Claire' in whatever you're referring to, but maybe it was a slip of the tongue? Usually she seems to be interested in how

I agree, I find it very fascinating how certain directorial choices can really inform a subconscious understanding of a scene. There are so many aspects that I wish I knew more about but are less difficult to pick out because they're meant to be less noticeable like camera angles, editing choices, what gets focused on

The point of contention seems be between those who know in the book there wasn't penetration, and those who apparently from "shorthand" in the television show think there was. My point was: How much difference does it even make? There was a clear sexual violation regardless, and I think it can be dangerous to start

The last ten minutes or so felt very different tonally somehow to me as well. And then I found out that Richard Clark actually directed that last 15 minutes or so, as opposed to Anna Foerster, who directed the rest of episodes 7 and 8. I assume this is because Richard Clark directed episodes 9 and 10 and they were

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Well I definitely wouldn't be against Claire doing more outright explaining to Jamie as to why her sense of right and wrong is so deeply offended at him punishing her - in fact it will probably be necessary in the show because we're not in her head. But at the same time, she was born in

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That's the thing - that one line is the only time she really says "No." I don't think the aggressive sex, or the fact that she finds it a little painful is an issue, as long as she isn't telling him to stop, mainly because of the conversation that occurs when they first have sex

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Fair enough. I would certainly agree that there are gendered issues with the whole thing that greatly complicate it. But i never really felt like Claire wasn't able to articulate her indignation, I absolutely feel her outrage and every time I read that scene I'm newly angry on her

Yeah, I can see how the episode might have benefited from cutting it off at an earlier point. There would have been some additional time for more of Jamie and Claire's newlywed interaction, which I feel like I missed in a general sense, but wouldn't be able to point to a specifically missed bit without a book in my

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Agreed. I first read that scene of them having sex back at Leoch when I was a lot younger and some of consensual (or non-consensual) aspects of it went over my head a bit. Having read it several times since, and again recently, I concur that there are serious issues with it, but

The point was that as a Scot, no one could come and legally drag her off for questioning, and no one could arrest Dougal for failing to bring her to Fort William. If she ends up there on her own though…

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Yeah, as the above comment mentions this spanking often gets lumped in with wife-beating, and I think that's where a lot of the controversy comes from, and that's just not what's happening. Jamie tells Claire that if any of the men in the group had done something like that they probably

Its not really about what is or isn't in the books. Its about how the series has been adapted so far, and I think looking at it through the lens of gender role-reversal is pretty valid at this point. The story is told through the eyes of a female protagonist. She's a smart, competent, decisive, complex, and

Well yeah, that's kind of what I meant. I think the reason it worked in the book was because you were inside her head understanding why the two of them felt this intense urge come out of such a traumatic situation, and that sex was a way to process what had just happened and deal with it. Similarly, knowing the

I think to have them have sex after the scene the way it was filmed in the series would have been horribly tonally off-balance. I understood it in the book, and as it was explained in her own mind, it made sense, but I really don't think there would have been a way to make it work in this episode, and I'm glad they

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Menzies has mentioned in a few interviews in a sly little way that he's read the second book, noticed Jack had a brother with great resemblance and that maybe *cough cough* there might be some extra work for him to do next season. No idea if the showrunners will end up going that direction,

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I think Gabaldon has confirmed that they won't/wouldn't be recasting the roles. Like you say, they're both mid-30s and can age up ten years as easily as they age down. I think it helps that neither of them look particularly young or old. It will probably help if they cast fairly young-looking

Haha yeah. Episode 9 is called "The Reckoning".

The voice-over has definitely been much less frequent in the last few episodes. And while the first episode is important for a lot of the setup, I don't think its necessarily a good indication of the rest of the show, mainly because its mostly all spent in the forties with her husband, none of which occurs again. I

It makes me a little uncomfortable to start trying to suss out whether the rape was "accomplished" or not. Yeah, there's no penetration in the books. It's a terrible violation and a terrifying experience regardless. I understand what you're getting at but in a general sense I feel like it can be a little ill-advised

"It is somewhat disappointing, then, that weeks after shaping my theory that Outlander has reversed the damsel/hero dichotomy, the episode ends with an all too familiar shot: Claire, helpless, stripped, trapped by Captain Jack Randall, and Jamie swooping in at the last minute with all the gusto of a noble knight to