No, I was talking about you writing my opposition off to misogyny- and no, I really just disagree with your entire premise because you’re treating 2016 Clinton as some ahistorical tabula rasa for one, and secondly because it’s based on the idea that support for Trump was some major outpouring of support rather than…

The fact that she’d pivoted was immaterial- she had that record, which made people skeptical of her and less willing to trust her. That’s part of why it was so easy for Obama. His relatively short national career meant that he didn’t have the baggage of having to pivot during temptestuous times.

Mmno, she was flawed. As I said in another comment, she was old, in ill health to the point that she fainted because seventy degrees was a bit much, the victim of a thirty year long baseless campaign of character assassination, so unpopular even within her own party that she lost her first presidential primary to a…

Okay, so she has a record of being substantially to the right of the electorate as it stood in 2016 on gay marriage, because the funny thing about politics is that people in it stick around and actually develop records and reputations based on their actions.

So, she’s not to the right of the electorate... she’s just someone who either believes I don’t deserve my civil rights, or who thinks it’s worth selling them up the river so that she can run for president in ‘08?

While we’re dreaming, maybe someday you’ll stop stanning for someone who lost to an orange buffoon with the IQ of celery because she thought she was too good to campaign in Wisconsin. Who knows!

Oh, Also, I got to hear her give speeches back when she was in the senate about how I shouldn’t have the right to get married, so she’s totally way too right-wing.

Which gets back to my initial point: The Democrats need to stop nominating flawed candidates substantially to the right of the electorate. I didn’t just mean presidential- if you check my comment history, you’ll find me bitching about how they tend to treat downticket races as unwinnable.

Uh yeah, she was. Issues-based polling reliably shows that the electorate is to the left of the Democratic party as a whole on issues like single-player, mass incarceration, UHC and trade policy.

Nope!

Or maybe the Democrats could stop nominating these flawed candidates who are substantially to the right of the electorate (which was one of the main concerns with Clinton)? I mean, I get it- they do it because they’re substantially to the right of the electorate on the issues, but...

Don’t tell me- tell the DNC, which has had a policy of treating state level elections and federal legislative elections as noncompetitive for the last six years, instead putting all of their money and manpower behind the executive branch.

Gonna go ahead and say it: Anne Frank would have been a belieber. I’m sure he didn’t have this comment in mind when he said it, but she loved the teen idols of her day and that’s one of the most humanizing and poignant things about her- she was a normal teenager girl trying to be a normal teenage girl while facing…

They’re both wrong incidently- Fake News, as defined by the guy who came up with the term, is comprised of false stories designed to collect clicks to generate ad revenue, mostly so that teenagers from Balkan countries can make beer money.

That’s in his penthouse- not the room we’re talking about, the Mar-A-Lago room which seems to be where they made the announcement. Where the real tacky shit is the paneling, the fireplace, those oversized cornices, and I’d argue, the overly busy ceiling. None of which he put in, but all of which probably figured into…

The room, circa 1967, is in the Mar-A-Lago Wikipedia article. It’s like the first interior picture. As I said, it’s not the same furnishings- but the really tacky stuff predates Trump.

It’s the living room at Mar-a-Lago, and it was actually decorated by the original owner.

Trump didn’t actually decorate that room, which dates back to when Marjorie Merriweather Post owned the property. All he can really be blamed for are the chairs and tables, although the original ones weren’t much more restrained.

It’s entirely possible that this only really blew up because his protests got violent- when Antifa types show up and things get rowdy, this kind of response looks more and more like the reasonable middle ground to Conservatives like CPAC and publishing industry moderates.

Well, there was a dedicated effort to fill it with garbage/anti-Trump responses, to the point that a former marketing strategist for the Obama campaign had to come out and explain why that’s a terrible idea.