Well you got just about every excuse for the Z lined up...so you either bought one and you’re still trying to convince yourself that it was worth it or you’re...Carlos? Sorry man I don’t think Nissan reads these, and that’s not getting you out of hot water anytime soon.

Have you driven one outside its element though? Awesome in the mountains and open roads. Horrible in anything that resembles a city or traffic. Driving position is awesome and the sound is intoxicating especially when opting for the basically straight piped version on the Spider. Tunnels :) But it rattles quite a bit…

No way man. Maybe a stripper bottom barrel 911 interior in all tan. But even the nicest leather interiors in a C7 pale compared to anything you’d find in a well specced base or upper trim level Porsche. Starting with the head unit and drivers area...And this is coming from someone who would strongly consider a C7…

Another swing and a miss. Some of those people with ‘good taste’, as you put it, are the same ones praising the Honda. One’s even had a go at it and owns a supercharged S2000.

Sure thing champ - putting it up for sale right now because randodes1 is offended by it...

Wow, defensive are we? Couldn’t care less what you think the ‘adult’ or better looking choice is guy, which was exactly the point I am making: people will drive good cars regardless of some rando’s 2 cents. Just illustrating that all you have to bring to the conversation is aesthetics. I’m not going to trade a better…

Again you don’t like the Honda’s looks, awesome. Let’s beat that dead horse a few more times, think it’ll get up now? Bringing up a GTI in this conversation is what shouldn’t even be contemplated, still fun but come on man...your opening line about a considerably more serious car is ‘I dont care how it drives?’

Simple, why care about those around you? Especially if most of them probably couldn’t tell an Alfa 4C from a Prius. All I know is the few co-workers I’ve had for the last two years that know what it is always have something positive to say about it. So there’s the ‘adulting’ argument out the window. Casuals or…

Drive a Type R. Same price as this ‘stripper’ Model 3 and longer range. Better in every measurable way possible when it comes to actually driving. Dinosaur or not.

Veloster N, the 300 HP version of this Civic hatch, the baby A series AMG will probably be priced closer to a Golf R and tbh for the top trim GTI to cost co lose to the mid 30s when new that might be an interesting alternative, the Megane...OK fine I admit a lot of the other competitors I’m thinking don’t make it…

Doesn’t count if its outside the hatch...cheater! I get the looks argument though, you either hate it or you love it...doesnt seem to be much in between. Honestly I’d prefer to look at an anime spaceship than just another Golf. Don’t get me wrong I loved my GTI. Until I didn’t, the 7.5s are great but look a bit…

Well the GTI didnt have a good enough mounting point for the cargo net to hold down 6 foot long large items. Not around a turn at least...But otherwise youre right why wouldn’t tires fit? Oh wait I have passengers in the back so the seats must be down. Can the GTI fit 20s in the back all standing vertically in a row…

You assume far too much by just eyeballing the Civic hatch. The sedan couldn’t carry a 60 inch TV (passthrough too narrow), or a full set of 20 inch wheels and tires + a thicker intercooler + tools at the same time...my GTI couldn’t do either of those two tasks and my last sedan sure as hell wasn’t up to the task. Or…

I’d say the justification is if he asked for the theoretical 10 dollars they’d offer 5 or less. So just like when negotiating salary or a plain old business transaction...start where way over/under where you want to be so you can work to the amount you really want. I don’t think he really expects the whole list to be…

No, you lost us back at the whole YOU ain’t shit at driving yet you think you have some ground to stand on while watering down her accomplishments. I couldn’t care less about your studies, politics, or cute anecdotes - you are no one. Win something while beating a woman like her and then get back to us. ‘I’m no…

Fuck outta here. Haha does that ‘research’ explain how she was closer to a WRC title than hundreds of men who’ve ever tried their hand at the sport? No one is pissed guy, but you did claim that her feats were nothing special and your ‘testosterone’ makes you a biologically superior individual. Yet you’re incapable of…

And you could do better? You’re doing the mansplaining thing while attempting to distance yourself from it by saying you voted for Clinton? Ok! About as good as the guy who doesn’t realize he says racially ignorant shit by saying he’s friends with a POC. Just move along, this article is not for you.

Oh man...I really hope you’re trolling the OP...

Oh no worries, perfectly understandable. I only really said that to dissuade potential ‘but crossover...’ knee-jerk reactions. Oh and that rallyish build looks great!

Think of it this way, if you ever decide you don’t want it to be stuck between a ‘hyper’ hatch or a crossover you drop it with a quality suspension and you now have 90 percent on the A45 AMG we never got. Which with a tune, the optional LSD, and stickier tires is a riot (not like the GLA 45 isn’t already on paper)…