Oprah also helped legitimize Jenny McCarthy’s anti-vaxx crusade.

What’s this about Oprah and Lohan? Asking because I honestly don’t know.

agreed

I really wish that Oprah had never brought Dr.’s Phil & Oz out of the grays.

“...the best case ontario...”

Right, because it’s not like there is an enormous gray area between problematic allies and murderous cops, the Klan, and Trumpsters.

FFS I never said that, but enjoy being angry at your straw man.

Or are doom and salvation synonymous in this case?

Yes, I get that. I don’t disagree with anything you said.

I’m not saying that condescension is never called for, just that there are times when respectfully pointing out why certain thoughts and actions are problematic is the more strategic approach.

All valid points!

I agree! I’m totally supportive of holding ourselves and our allies accountable, I just think that we should do it in a manner that isn’t alienating.

Yeah, and let’s say that this petition to have her apologize is successful. Then what? Would any elephant’s quality of life be improved? Would it lead to any tangible outcome at all? I highly doubt it.

“If dudes can’t figure this shit out on their own, it’s nobody’s job to fucking tutor them.”

No you are not.

Or maybe help them become more “woke” without talking down to them?

why

New Rule: Empathy Is A Criminal Offence

Counterpoint: please don’t. But I understand that feel RN.