“I will, however, point out that the original Raptor was smaller in its heart.”

The Raptor goes after the high speed desert runner market, if you want to wheel in Moab get a jeep... As far as prerunners go the Raptor is actually relatively thin. Older prerunner Rangers had track widths up to and even over 92" wide, F150's sometimes over 100". High speed in the desert requires extra width for…

Lol. Try driving a crew cab F250.

“with body damage, all things are possible”

Unless you, you know, live near a desert. Which lots of people do.

*Not valid in Texas.

“But even the first generation Raptor was reasonably sized compared to the current model.” Really ? as an owner of a Gen one Raptor with the 5.4l I think you need to look at the actual dimensions of the truck. mine is nearly an inch longer only 0.1 inches shorter and weighs roughly 600 lbs more than the current one.…

“Oh my god, why do they even make Ferraris? Almost no one races them!”

If you have a friends group like mine where everyone besides 2 people are 6ft or taller, the extra space in a full size raptor is phenomenal.

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But even the first generation Raptor was reasonably sized compared to the current model.

But even the first generation Raptor was reasonably sized

It is. I am always amazed at the height of the bed sides whenever I encounter one in the wild. Shit’s virtually head height (I am 5'9").-

Sure, but that pretty much goes for any premium priced vehicle doesn’t it?

People bitching that the majority of owners with special trims don’t use them as intended really don’t seem to get the consequences of those people didn’t buy them. Here’s a hint though: every performance car you like would not exist.

The Raptor is not a rock crawler. Its designed for baja style drives. Its 3 inches wider on each side not including the mirrors due to fender flaresAdding fender flares to a jeep makes it “a good half a foot wider”. A vehicle sinking in mud is a shock? A Corolla would have sunk to the windows in that yard. This is a…

Exactly, he stated it has gotten bigger, it actually seems the same or even smaller in certain angles.

Per Raph, the current Raptor is:

So ummm thats like just your opinion man

Eh, I just bought one this past weekend and drove it back from Portland to the bay area. Definitely big in the city / some suburbs, and felt wide in the snow covered fire trail I did some light off roading on. But overall on the road trip felt like a nice size. Even on the fire trail, if you let the paint go felt ok,…