Unfortunately, many people view the Fitz character as being weak and spineless because his issues are glossed over (the same with Olivia). I believe that both of them are carrying so much emotional baggage that has never been dealt with.

I don't because I am tired of a "broken Fitz". I am tired of a weak, spineless Fitz. Let the man move on.

Why would you wish such ill will on a person - is it because he is a man. Mellie has done some despicable things in her life also, but I don't wish her ill will. I always wanted her to have the courage to leave Fitz and I wish she had left him on her on instead of being thrown out. I wanted her to realize that she…

But when he was alone, according to Cyrus, he was a great President. If you remember Season 4 premiere Cyrus didn't want Olivia back because he said the white house was very functional and Fitz was getting a lot done. He was burying himself in his work. Cyrus, bless his heart, always felt that Olivia was bad for…

I tend to agree with Cheyenne, she is a cold scheming bitch. When Fitz was giving her the run of the place she was happy as a lark. I also believe she wasn't so unhappy with the fact that he "made" her move into the White House; she was unhappy because he didn't use her as "his partner".

Then why did she say Yes? When Fitz left the voice message telling her that he understood that she did not want to give up her life and business all for him, why didn't she take it? As Cheyenne says, Olivia is a very selfish person. When she makes decisions, she is only concerned with how it will impact her and not…

Olivia was essentially lashing out at Fitz. In one episode she tells him that is proud of him (the Brandon Bill) and he is the President that she knew he could be and in this episode she tells him he is incompetent because he called her out on her love of power.

So what. The show has already asked us to forgive Mellie for releasing the two murderers of her son. She's practically being deified as a champion for women's rights. If a mother releasing the murderer of her 1st born child for political expediency can be forgiven, then anything can.

I agree with everything you say, but it doesn't mean she is losing her agency.

I agree, Fitz should not have made the decision without Olivia's input, but looking at Scandal as a whole, everyone, and I mean everyone, has made decisions on behalf of Fitz without getting his input. Maybe I'm being overly sympathetic to him in light of Olivia making a horrible decision on releasing the killer of…

Thank you for understanding the point I was trying to make. I can see where you are coming from with the Denial of Agency, however, I don't want to minimize women who really have their Agency denied. There are women who are voiceless and don't have a voice in certain matters and I just don't put Olivia into this…

You're making a lot of assumptions about me. I wasn't angry, I answered your post. I guess I just don't feel that a person should have to read your body language, especially when you can flat out tell the person that thoughts, especially if the person is 'the love of your life". - my bad.

But she explained why she backed out during the Ring throwing episode. Fitz did tell her that he had tried to give up the Presidency on numerous occasions for her and she responded by telling him that if he gave up the Presidency then everything that she had done to put him and keep him there would be a waste. She…

I think the statement Shonda is trying to make is that these women are not "super powerful black women" but just women who have fucked up personal lives.

How do you know its against her will. Did you tell him specifically that she did not want to live in the white house. We, as viewers, are privy to conversations that the characters are to privy too. We heard this conversation between Abby and Olivia but the question you refuse to answer is when did she have this…

That's what bothers me too. Why would a girl who has went to the best schools in Europe, with the sons of Kings and Queens, and went to Georgetown law want to hook up with an unemployed ex-spy. As I said in other posts, Fitz is a Rhodes Scholar, Ivy League graduate, multi-millionaire, two term governor and two term…

I think they are girl, I think they are.

Jake was never imprisoned at the White House and I consider it a serious stretch equating Jake's situation to Olivia's.

I disagree in Olivia never wanting to be First Lady. Remember the episode when someone broke into her house and she and Cyrus was in the office talking. she specifically told Cyrus that she was going to married Fitz and she was going to be his first lady - at which point Cyrus told her that this was not a "romance…

I think you are reading too much into the last 5 minutes. The music and the back and forth between Rowan and Huck, Jake and tom and Fitz and Olivia clouded some people's perception. If I recall, I never saw Olivia actually agreeing to this. Remember when he said he wanted to divorce Mellie and Marry her during the…