cool, living in the past. I’ll be surprised if the Cavs even get out of the East this year so enjoy that while you can.

Again... critical thinking. Don’t be salty about your lack of it. ;)

Never said he wasn’t. So I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make other than your complete lack of critical thinking skills.

I’ve elucidated my points earlier pretty thoroughly, now you’re just arguing for the sake of opposing me. The bulls were still a perennial contender and actually won more games without MJ. Not a single team Lebron has left didn lose about 20 wins let alone win more. Don’t be such a homer.

The irony here is strong. You literally made my point for me here and you clearly didn’t ready my earlier post. To paraphrase: year before Lebron the cavs were a 33 win team, the year after they were 50+. Kyrie is not the difference maker, a better than average PG? Sure, but Cavs fans wouldn’t know what playoffs were…

Fair point, though I never said Cavs fans didn’t exist. I wasn’t trying to implicate you as a bandwagon fan, the point I made was you wouldn’t be talking about anything right now during the playoffs if you didn’t have Lebron.

I unfortunately didn’t get a chance to enjoy watching Ewing play and given that I’ve had a hard time understanding how the NYK are considered a premium destination for players. The last semblance of competence I remember was watching Allen Houston jack 3s in the early 00s (or late 90s?)

Haha, human vasectomy. Look, I think that Lebron has carried the Cavs to places they could never touch without him, and they didn’t do it with class. Yes, frankly at this point I think Draymond might be mentally unstable or the living embodiment of a dick. But let’s not kid ourselves. The cavs have literally only ever…

Fair point. But I have yet to be convinced you’d even be talking about playoffs without Lebron, regardless of how many points Kyrie averages.

Frankly I never bothered to check what Phil Jackson has accomplished outside of the bulls and Shaw/Kobe but if his recent stint in NYC is any indication of his true prowess he might the most overrated coach, ever.

Can you with a straight face tell me that the cavs, sans Lebron, are anywhere near a Chip contender let alone scrapping to make the playoffs? That was my initial point and yes I was perhaps overly harsh disregarding his teammates as trash but frankly without Lebron I doubt we’d ever hear from any Cavs fans come…

Fair point, and I stated this initially but I can see how it might’ve been missed, has Kyrie ever played to that level before or since consistently? I believe I literally said Kyrie turned into a monster and gave credit where due, but is he that player or did he play above his station?

I said put aside my admittedly salty opinion of the rest of the cavs and tell me they would be a contender without Lebron. As far as classless goes, with the exception of Draymonds ball seeking feet I don’t see the Warriors players making tombstones of the Cavs for a Halloween party after drubbing them in the finals…

I’ll also just go ahead and leave this here for you: 2013-2014 cavs WITH Kyrie, cj Miles, Deng, Tristan Thompson, Andrew Bynum, verajao (sp?), dion waiters 33-49. Next year 2014-2015 Lebron rejoins 53-29. Over those same years the heat go from 54-28 with Lebron to 37-45 their worst winning percentage since ‘08. For…

Ok let’s put aside my opinion of the rest of the cavs team. Do you have them into the ECF or Finals this year or last without Lebron? Also, Kyrie unfortunately did turn into a fantastically clutch player in those last few games against the Warriors, can you reasonably tell me that that’s the level Kyrie plays to on a…

Sorry, but as a warriors fan I should’ve also mentioned that my respect for anything that has to do with Cleveland stops with him. As far as I’m concerned the rest of that team is garbage and classless coattail riders.

Warriors fan here. I’m convinced that Lebron can will almost any outcome into existence and frankly, you’d have to give me a pretty compelling argument for why he’s NOT the GOAT. You take him off that team, I don’t see them making the playoffs. Jordan “retired” and the Bulls still went to the Conference Championships…

Kidding aside this kid might be mentally impaired. I’m trying to justify no rafionalize this action without ill intent and I can’t. It’s not even the best excuse to pull your dick out unexpectedly.

Knayte, congratulations!! How long ago do you learn to read and write? You seem VERY good at it.

So as a COLLEGE student, I’m assuming in the Bay Area. You had enough money to pay for tuition room and board in addition to PSL AND the season tickets to the raiders? I’m assuming what you’re going to tell me next is that your parents DID NOT pay for everything and also that unicorns exist, correct?