You must be a Jalop. Living with your parents (I’m assuming that is what you mean) at 25 or buy a Civic Type R. I bet you have oil in your veins.

Translation: Try you damnedest to buy within your means. If that means used, so be it. Don’t try to keep up with the Jones.

I get both sides. Having worked in a UAW stamping plant while I was in college, I know that pay is good but it is shit work. I’ve also worked non union labor too. The pay/benefits isn’t nearly as good, work sucks, OSHA violations tend to be rule, and workers have 0 voice.

You will be waiting a long time

First of all, you brought up college debt which shouldn’t even be raised in this sector of the LABOR MARKET. Second, so just because other manufactures pay their workers less the Big 2.5 should as well? If it were up to the manufactures they would have children building these cars with little salary or benefits so…

1st: I see a lot of hate on 6 year loans. Why? If you plan on keeping your car for a while doesn’t it make more sense (in some cases) to stretch it out.

People die in oil fields and in auto plants. There aren’t too many deaths in business parks.

If you are on factory floors (and I am not talking about assembly plants) then you should understand that the jobs are tough and the environment sucks. 38,760 years seems appropriate for working 60/hours week and good benefits.

You must not live in Illinois.

So cars electric cars are going to build themselves and don’t need components?

Where are you getting this average? Citation please!

Have you ever stepped foot on a factory floor? Do you think these works only work 40 hours a week to make 90k? No, they are working a lot of hours to make 90k. BTW, you need to be there a decent amount of years before you can make that much, even with the overtime. So next time, don’t open your mouth about something…

Perception and reality......you may be surprised that they are different

Most people don’t take car of their cars! :(

Trading one piece of garbage for another. BUT IT’S FAST!

I’d pass on the rattle boxes

Give me an Explorer ST. Then I can actually take turns. This thing fits the Dodge only go straight mantra though.

No just stop...it doesn’t fit the narrative that they are trying to convey here.

Tahoe...This is Traverse competition

I don’t really understand the fawning over this. Sure, it looks unique and something unKia (looks more upscale than it should). However, it’s down on power compared to competition. And you know corners were cut to get that price down so low. All those Kia Stinger buyers understand this.