@-MasterDex-: Can you show that it was true? I mean there's nothing actually in there except ranting against IceFrog and posting well known information to "prove" this guy's a Valve insider.

@Stradigos: Pretty much this. League of Legends wouldn't exist as it currently does without paying attention to player feedback. Saying "Players are morons you'll ruin the game" is besides the point. Devs constantly talk about listening to the community base in order to get an idea of the directions they need to take…

@Shagittarius: Except, he's not talking about bug patching being the service. He's talking about improving the game being the service.

@Shagittarius: Not really. Most games have stuff that isn't working well on release, double so for any multiplayer game. Look at MW2. Heck, look at Starcraft 2, ridiculously long beta and resources spent on it. Still in need of patching and refinement of the online multiplayer.

@Stephen Totilo: Yeah it started off with freaking GFWL.

@adrielch: Hey now, that kid on the tricycle is totally going to be awesome at parallel parking when she grows up.

I hate Beyonce but...

@_LarZen_: With respect, saying "I've bought a gaming PC so I know what I'm talking about!" Is pretty much the equivalent of saying "I'm not a 360 fanboy, I own a PS3 so I know what I'm talking about!", or "I can't be racist, some of my best friends are black!". It's an appeal to authority which, unfortunately…

@wocalax: I'd say you're being too optimistic.

@The Squid: Or Macros.

@R0bster: Indeed. Except Valve took the effort to improve Steam over the years, and it was largely driven because they NEEDED Steam to succeed.

@Smurfette's dropkick: And ironically, it's the one feature that MS probably despises the most.

@ObiSean: I can pretty much get behind all this.

@VividNinjaScar:

@famoustrip: takes everything literally:

@_LarZen_: Dang. Someone ought to tell Valve that Steam went out of business years ago because they had nothing to sell...

@zlarm: Yes. It is.

@ddhboy: Whilst I have slightly more faith in this coming out:

@arionfrost: I largely credit Valve with the PC's continued survival as a games platform. That should have been Microsoft's role, but they pretty much dropped the ball on that one.

I fail to see how their DRM policy is "open" compared to Steam. Valve also allows 3rd party DRM on Steam as well. If that wasn't the case, Assassin's Creed 2 wouldn't be on Steam right now.