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@HungerSTGF: That was pretty much a disaster of their own flipping making though. They released it over 2 years late, tied to Vista only, and without co-op.

Double of nothing is still nothing.

@buenview360: People have been migrating away from WC3 DotA for a while now. Both HoN (Heroes of Newearth) and LoL (League of Legends) have been developed in the time since, and they're both pretty much gunning for that market. LoL in particular, is being developed by Riot Games, which contains some of the ORIGINAL

@grysl: So out of curiosity, how do you feel about Team Fortress, which was originally a Quake community game?

@r4z0rbl4d3: Ep3 (or HL3 or whatever) is still in development.

@Diablo_Darkfire: Yes, this is EXACTLY what Valve did with all those variants of Counter-Strike and Team Fortress that have been developed on dozens of games over the years...

@reducks: I know, but like I said, it's a slightly different scenario.

@reducks: That would be because he lived in Communist Russia at the time.

Cross posting this from elsewhere since I can't be bothered to write out a new take on this.

@andreramses: You know, I'd probably buy Halo 2 off of GFWL Marketplace.

@RockyRan: Ripping off Steam would be an improvement. At least that would mean they'd finally have an external community client.

@VividNinjaScar: Unfortunately that history can be largely divided into two eras: Pre-XBox, and Post-Xbox:

And at the end of the video?