I love all the "lawyers" who post on these types of articles, they are pretty hilarious.

That was on the concept car, I don't believe it made it into production. It does look very good, i'm sure it will show up in the aftermarket.

Oh thanks, yeah that one has a bit more orange to it.

It is different, but I don't like it at all. Also, isn't it called Austin Yellow? I am not a fan of red but I am digging the Sakhir Orange Metallic on the M4.

Yeah, I'm not saying these numbers are set in stone as dyno's have many variables but it gives you a good idea how under rated the M4 is. From the factory it is rated at 425 flywheel horsepower and it puts down 421 whp, where as the C7 is rated at 460 flywheel and made 411 at the wheels. Also, this article has the…

Yeah honestly I'm just looking at the F Sport for the wheels and full grill, I have a sports car for fun driving so I don't care much about the handling "upgrades" on a CUV.

So my dyno facts are not comparable but I should take your word that the C7 would spank the M4 on straights and in the twisties? Please tell me more about how you took the C7 and M4 to a track on the same day and put them through their paces.

If we can get an F Sport for the base price of an RX ($40,000) this will probably be our next vehicle. Though that is probably wishful thinking as the F Sport adds $8,000 to the RX so we will see when they come out how much they are willing to deal.

The M4 is a no brainer for me. It has a usable back seat and is fun on the track, also even in that horrible pea green it looks better than the C7's hot wheels styling. Maybe if I needed a vehicle to race competitively I would look at the C7 but for my uses the M4 is way more valuable even with its higher price tag.…

So then what position is Disney?

I'm going with vehicles that have a "light bulb out" warning. It's so much better than having to wait for someone to tell you your brake light is out, or in the worst case scenario have an officer of the law tell you its out with a fix-it ticket.

Everyone should read this article to put this into perspective. Again this makes no light of this man tragic death (my condolences to the family, but at least he passed doing something he loved thats better than behind a desk), but if someone wants to grand stand about safety they need to head to other venues that…

Speaking of assumption, did I say anything about you?

I would like to see more "manly" styling and a coupe version. Also a 6-speed and LSD on the base model would be nice. I also wouldn't complain if it made 200 horespower.

Yeah well if media wants to stay up there they need to work together during situations like this. This is not the time for a stand about your pictures and your rights, get the f back and let the people do their job. Don't go running to your phone to upload pics of a gruesome death to make some $$$$ have some respect…

To not take proper precautions or plan accordingly in the event of a catastrophe is immature.

That's good, their n/a skyactiv motors are falling behind the turbocharged engines from other manufactures.

What par isn't? Its a powerful motor stuffed in a mid-size family car. That was like the definition of a muscle car back in the day.

Absolutely love that car.

Was the Camry ever inspiring and exciting? The Camry has always been a reliable appliance, and still is today.