I live in Europe. There have been some interesting occasions where people buy shares so they can make companies do certain things. I love that.... democracy isn't working because the companies can lobby and pay to be represented... so the people can pay for shares and have a bigger voice than just their vote.

YES PLEASE. That's brilliant.

These are good points and maybe the rules wouldn't have to apply to things that everyone knows is 'candy', like doughnuts or ice cream.

Access sure but it's very expensive. Lentils and brown-anything are insanely priced. Even tins of peas and beans are on the pricey side. If I want veggies, they need to be frozen because the fresh ones are expensive and rot almost immediately.

That much is clear. But you are getting mad because there is a consumer group that doesn't deserve even a fraction of the blame and they are going to die because of it.

But they won't just go "nom nom nom: DEATH" will they? They take time to die and are sick the whole time. Plus, they're feeding it to their kids who don't have much choice even if they did understand the science. It's a public health issue not a convenient way to passively perform eugenics.

I'm not just talking about fast food restaurants though, sorry if I wasn't clear.

Come on. I've been talking to you for a while now and I don't know you but I know you are good at making arguments, critical thinking, standard English grammar, spelling, punctuation.

Half of a couple's only job was to clean up and make food, I think.

So, share holders need to say "ENOUGH" or it has to be actually illegal to add that much sugar to food. Either or, not fussy. But it needs to happen.

Not just fast food at restaurants. I'm thinking of all the convenience food in the stores. The ready made breakfast cereals, the processed meats, the store bought bread, the pre-prepared freezer items. If those are actually dangerous to consume regularly, then sorry, they need to stop selling those (or put warnings…

Sort of.... I was talking about how cultures that had reasonable health (re: obesity related illness), that are adopting "American" eating habits are now starting to get unwell.

Or they could be compelled to make food that doesn't endanger health. That's still an option.

I think it is more about time-poverty and than simply cost. But I'm not sure. It'd be an interesting study.

I wonder why the numbers have risen so much, any ideas?

So, are obesity and diabetes occurring in greater rates because people are living long enough to develop them? Or are certain food additives (for example: sugar), making them more likely? Because that sounds like something industry can prevent.

I think that's the key to why successful vegans are so healthy: they're not eating as much sugar and salt as the rest of the population because they have to cook from scratch.

LOL, not to the 1400s, no. The 1900s would do me just fine. The reason we don't have malnutrition in the developed world anymore is the Haber process. That's invented. It's in the bag.

it's not meant for individual use. It's for population studies.

but these health problems only just started becoming a major, common problem. Can't we 'rewind' to when people didn't get sick from food?