stl25ta
Stl25TA
stl25ta

Can we make it a rule that anyone who uses the phrase "personal responsibility" in a conversation about rape loses the right to talk about rape?

I think it's rude to be judgmental and picky about the gifts you get, frankly. On a birthday, at Christmas, and even at your wedding. It's a GIFT, not an obligation, and frankly you're the one who invited them, so be happy they came to celebrate with you, and gracious about what you get. As Soren Bowie wrote, "no one deserve

I say, if the standard is that your meal is a "loan", then fuck it. Fund your wedding through kickstarter so we don't have to tiptoe around inane traditions and expectations.

It's a LOVELY gift idea.

But a wedding gift isn't mandatory...it's a nice thing you can do for someone. Okay, so people expect them, but there is nothing in the "wedding rules" that say "you must bring gift of value >or= to [insert amount here]. Quite like how a birthday gift isn't mandatory.

I don't know, his very first response I thought was remarkably nice considering they asked him for a receipt — just sidestepped the weirdness, apologized for giving a gluten-y gift, and thanked them for the invite. Eventually he gets really rude too, but for my money he comes out looking amazing next to their gall.

We'll know that we've reached true equality when gays and lesbians feel free to approach their wedding with the same vulgar sense of entitlement and ingratitude that straight people have.

Aren't jobs for making money for your future?

What disturbs me is how the comments section in other stories about this are people being kind of middle of the road about it when the brides were CLEARLY being amazeballs levels of rude.

I think the problem is that you zeroed in on the drinking part and not the rape part. I understand what you're saying, and I agree that teenage drinking is a problem, but if you'd chosen to focus on the larger problem in the Steubenville conversation- the rapists- your comment wouldn't have seemed as victim blamey.

A sixteen year old getting black-out drunk is a problem, sure. But the problem is completely unrelated to the problem this article is discussing: the problem of rape. Black-out drunkness is irrelevant.

*If there are three men that feel compelled to rape and videotape an incapacitated 16 year old and brag about it, that's a problem.

Quick, someone get Serena Williams to comment on this. I need to know just how much of a tragedy it is for these poor rapists and whether or not Serena thinks the victim may have been a virgin.

Because like many 16 year old she has probably gotten drunk, possibly blackout drunk, before, and she was never raped until that day? That many women get drunk, possibly blackout drunk, at any given moment, and some of them are raped, but I would like to assume that most of them are not? Like someone said in this

"Is it fair that the boys only got a slap on the wrist?" There, I fixed it for her.

The thing is, I'm not saying clam up. I'm saying: pick a different venue to have the discussion. There are lots and lots of appropriate times to have that discussion. When you use a rape victim as a springboard for that discussion though, an actual case in the news, it derails the conversation about every other thing

You know what blows me away by some of the responses on this thread in general? They say "Personal responsibility!" We say "But even if a woman does every single thing you listed (like not drink, go places with a friend, etc) it doesn't guarantee her safety and she can still get raped." And they come back with "WOMEN

Sweet Jesus I hope you never have a daughter.

Steubenville victim's parents raised a daughter who managed to stand up for herself, press charges, face national exposure and criticism, survive rape and bullying and victim blaming and try to bring justice and prevent this shit from happening to others, both by punishing her attackers and bringing attention to how

Interesting stuff.