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Exactly. Ian goes through such a transformation due to the mistaken identity plot, and to change that would change the foundation of the man he becomes in later storylines. To eliminate the great misunderstanding would change Roger & Bree substantially as well, in my opinion, as much of their future development hinges

SPOILERS. Auuuughhh! I’m so tired of the “Rape as a plot device” Outlander critique. It’s a book series. A series that was written waaaaaay before our current social climate. There was NO WAY to move this story forward without this tragedy happening to Brianna... so many things hinge off it. Without this event Roger

It’s the zeitgeist of the time to question every assault scene, but can we please be just a little bit more creative with the same response every single time? If the writer’s scrapped it, they’d be going way off course. It wasn’t a gratuitous scene played for shock only.

Rape happened.....A LOT back then, and throughout history. So often it wasn’t even a crime. Until about 40 years ago, it still wasn’t a crime to rape your wife in many parts of the US. So I’m sorry to hear of people getting upset about rape in Outlander. “ It’s too often. It’s too graphic. I don’t want to see that!”

Don’t forget Roger was also raised by a man who wasn’t his birth father.  Hmm, there seems to be a lot of similar cycles in this series.

As someone who has read the books, it is really frustrating to see the “Why did she have to be assaulted?” line repeatedly, with little thought as to why it might be important. To be fair, I was a little annoyed with Gabaldon’s use of sexual assault in some of the future books, but this particular plot line isn’t one

I don’t think I can emphasize enough how sick I am of the story line in which one character doesn’t tell another character something else, for what seems to me to be a very cogent reason - my daughter does not follow this, so I can confess here that I called the pound to see if her dog, that she was forced to give up,

While it seams like there is too much rape in the entire story, it is not gratuitous. There are *always* consequences later on. To remove these events from the story would have more than a butterfly effect to the ongoing story.  This show is not going depart the books in a GoT manner.  To say that it is over used as a

While I do agree with some of the points you’ve made, I wonder if you have read the book. As troubling as it may have been to watch, Brianna’s rape is part of a greater plot. Among other things, it serves as emotional angst for roger. Could he love a child that might not be his? Having Lizzy witness the “violent”

I don’t disagree. Certainly that whole argument was an exercise in what not to do in such a situation. However, I just can’t bring myself around to Roger’s way of thinking (this is, unfortunately, the one time I’ve been unable to see events through anything other than a 21st century lens so that’s my fault). I know it

There are stories to be told about Revolutionary America that don’t have to exoticize Native Americans or plunk your main characters on a slave plantation.


Obviously (as I’ve said numerous times already) it’s not the same but it is the case that Jamie was compelled to service, possibly for life, and that experience causes him to empathize with the slaves more than most men of his time.

Oh yeah, definitely. Her words totally came across as gross and I thought that’s exactly what the writers were trying to get across.

Yep, huuuuge Scots population here in NC from the Cape Fear to the mountains. Cross Creek in the show is modern day Fayetteville, and the dinner party with Philip Wylie takes place in Wilmington, although the show just used some generic green screen 18th century river town.

Yeah, we were in no way supposed to sympathize with her.  Even the books, which were kinder, made it clear that she couldn’t be trusted. 

I was really looking forward to Maria Doyle Kennedy cast as Jocasta but clearly the writing failed her since for some reason people think she’s a sympathetic character we're supposed to like and not a manipulative string puller who's sweet "oh call me auntie too!" is meant to be a front. I hope when she returns this

Jamie was a slave, or the closest thing to it.  To have Jamie go to the colonies and not confront it would be.... weird.  And then people would be clutching their pearls over the “whitewashing” of the colonies or something. 

Even though it’s not always well done, I admire the writers commitment to trying to not fall into the historical fiction trap of making everyone magically 21St c liberal, or cartoonishly old fashioned and backward. Claire brings her 60's cosmopolitan liberal English white professional middle class woman with

I see your point, but DG chose it in the books, most likely, because NC is where a large immigration of Scotland went when the exodus and emptying of the Highlands happened at this time period. There’s a lot of scholarship that theorizes that Appalachian culture is some of the last remnants of the highland scottish cul