I respect that OP had the guts to drop this take on a car enthusiast comment section. The kicker is that OP is 100% right and that is why no one wants manuals in daily drivers in the US and Canada. It’s utterly pointless if you live in a city where there is no room to really have fun with it.

I drove manuals in hours long traffic on the 405 in LA. It’s shitty, but it’s shitty in anything. It wasn’t enough to make me want to quit the clutch.

Agreed. This is a fair price for someone with $4500 sitting around who doesn’t need to care about losing it. It’s a cool daily driver until something major craps the bed. 

Not being a dick here - I feel like it’s unreasonable to care about how “dated” the interior of a 16 year old, 190k mile car looks, especially when it’s not as if whoever owns this would ever be using said 16 year old navigation system anyway.

Yep. I wouldn’t risk my wallet on it, but for a BMW fan with $4500 sitting around, that’s a fair price. 

Former 2008 Legacy GT owner here. The reason Subaru doesn’t offer everything they make in a turbo, manual form anymore like they did in the glory days of the 2000s (Outback, Baja, Legacy, and Forester) is because the take rate of those high strung trims is only like 10% at most, and it costs more and more over time to…

So I owned Tesla stock from 2012 to 2015, then sold it at about $300 a share. Back then people were saying the EXACT same thing you are now.

Much less depreciation, too. That’d be my real hangup buying a brand new Kia - it’s throwing a lot of money away whenever you sell it.

Just as non-elitist with this stuff, “sports car” to me means a 2 door, low to the ground, relatively short wheelbase car (so, a Porsche coupe for example) that is tuned from the factory for driving enjoyment first and foremost.

Moist just sounds like there is mold or fungus involved. 

My message board nerding out made it seem like the early versions of Audi DSG and the Haldex AWD system were very jerky and unrefined, but these issues seem to have been fixed over the next decade into the mid 2010s.

Interesting. What year was it? I have a 2015 A3 which has the same powertrain from the GTI (with AWD) and have never been annoyed with it at all. I keep telling people I like it so much with paddles on the steering wheel that I don’t miss a stick shift much at all (I do wish I could rev match downshifts on twisty…

This is the complete opposite of my 11 months with Audi’s DSG. It’s so good, that I don’t miss a manual transmission much at all.

Ehhhhhh I went from a manual transmission for 15 years to Audi DSG last summer, and after a brief period of getting used to it, I do not experience ANY issues driving it in slow speed conditions (I live downtown in a major city, so that’s every day).

I was gonna say, it’s not that I dislike it, but I’m not really a huge fan of it either. The wraparound eyelids of the headlights in particular look like something that won’t age well.

I’d have a hard time buying this FWD version attempting to send 300 HP through the front wheels, as opposed to finding an AWD version instead. It looks like it is in great condition, but that sounds like a recipe for a lot of torque steer and understeer since Volvos are also heavy as hell.

I bought a car that the original owner still had about 2 years of payments left on. We just went to his bank in town, I gave him the check, he cashed it and paid off the remaining balance, then signed over the title.

Lmao you make it sound like this is a common or guaranteed occurrence. I’ve owned cars with power seats for 20 years from Toyota, Subaru, Honda, and Audi and have never had a single problem with a seat motor or switch.

Right? Even the lowest end rental fleet compact sedans these days have 6.

I make Bryant Gumble look like Malcom X, huh motherfucker?