I mean, I get how a superfan would be sensitive, but I have legitimately not heard a word about this show in a good 15 years. I never see anyone talk about it and I haven’t seen an ad or anything in forever, which is probably because it’s on CBS, which hasn’t had anything I wanted to watch since maybe the 1980s. I…

You think the Chiklis thing was better?

This show is seriously still on the air?

For the budget they had, it looks pretty great. The Torch was never going to work, and the Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman effects are trash, but the Thing and Doom look way better than they have in films that spent like 100x as much money.

It was so mind-boggingly stupid that I needed to step away from the Avengers for a while.

The Marvel universe is an absolutely unprecedented massive, sprawling story told by hundreds of creators over generations. There is nothing like it.

You don’t have to watch anything you don’t want to watch. And (with the exception of Secret Invasion), even the less-good Marvel shows have been a lot more fun than most of what’s on television, so I really don’t understand this take.

When I was a kid, I would buy and read all kinds of individual issues out of sequence and don’t remember ever being so mystified about getting that it was a piece of a larger story whose details weren’t available to me.

Because why?

I mean, the people who would watch Marvel shows want more of them.

Triathalon, Doctor Druid, Gilgamesh, Silverclaw, and Rage.

This isn’t true. They do new starting points every few years, which is super annoying to long-time readers.

Yes! That actually is fascinating.

It’s one of these things. I know this was ostensibly an incredibly popular comic strip, and I do remember those stuffed Garfields stuck to car windows in my childhood. But I’ve never actually met anyone who said they liked Garfield at all. Actually, that’s not true; I did have a conversation a while back where someone…

Does he not make dog noises?

I hated that cartoon.  Heathcliff and the Catillac Cats all the way.

It’s the best version; still a long way from good.

There hasn’t been a good anything version.

What’s the problem?

I’m in favor of keeping the sublimated chemistry going on but stopping returning to the well of teasing things advancing only to pull back. Long-term work crushes are real, but it could be a hell of a lot less soapy.