Zero.

So then disregard the 8%, but the 25% is still valid. The 38% is a complete fabrication because they used a made up MSRP that was $20,000 too high (or likely what happened is that they were talking about teh tri-motor when this is just a dual-motor).

Please point out the lie.

Cars&Bids shows all their sold listings. $7,500-$14,500 discount from original new price but still $5,500-$12,500 above brand new present day MSRP.

Not an Elon Musk fan. The misinformation on this site is way out of hand.

A Foundation Series Cybertruck recently sold on Bring A Trailer for $75,000, which based on the original MSRP of around $120,000 marks an already significant 38 percent loss in just one year of ownership.

Those deep dish wheels

Musk has precisely zero to do with asking for evidence when making claims in an unintended acceleration case. I don’t like Musk. Stop with your deflection.

He wasn’t saying people who already owned an EV had range anxiety, he was saying that people who didn’t own an EV’s reason to NOT buy an EV was (perceived) range anxiety (of course along with many other, mostly fabricated reasons).

Can you point to ONE example of a proven unintended acceleration in any Tesla model that was not found to be user error?

Considering Tesla has been making vehicles for 16 years, I think that’s a safe bet to say yes. Tesla’s warranty states that the battery is still at 70% by year 8 or 100,000 to 150,000 miles depending on model. Model S has been around for 12 years and the Model 3 for 8 years. My Model 3 is over 6 years and all I’ve had…

Have you really never seen the hundreds or even thousands of commenters on this very site who had that argument?

This would be the first time, that I’m aware of, that there was “unintended acceleration” in a Tesla that was not user error. Especially since they supposedly have redundencies for the digital throttle pedal input, it’s not like there’s a cable that can get stuck.

Having 6 years experience operating Tesla’s various Autopilot/Enhanced/FSD features, this is basically the opposite of anything it does, especially present day. It wouldn’t have even gone by the second car that was sideways in the middle of the lane, let alone cut through parking spaces, especially at that speed.…

Not to mention FSD would have over-cautiously stopped with the sideways car blocking the lane, and wouldn’t speed through parking spaces

Congrats, that’s an absolutely gorgeous color and I don’t think I even knew it came in that! For a 500e I had always liked the orange with white trim, but this might even be better. I’m on my second Fiat now, a 2015 Abarth. Someday I hope to also add a 500e to the stable.

Since this car came out, there have been huge improvements in EV tech. For example, preheating the battery before you leave, so you’re not wasting juice on the road running the battery heater while driving. Fast charging, which this car does not have. Heat pumps, which are pretty recent. And that new EVs usually get…

I agree with @Bladecutter1 in that if they made them usable in the first place, people would use them. Some of the EVs out there right now with frunks have them so small you couldn’t even fit a single high school backpack. I keep mine full of mainly emergency supplies. My EV’s hood is kind of annoying to close but…

And it seems there always has been, even before there was the political angle. Or I guess there always was a political angle, just for different reasons. Used to be that electric cars were the devil’s creation because they’re going to take away our beloved gas cars, and once electric cars became widely accepted, they…

I suppose so. Even the Pontiac G8 (that I have) apparently sold 38,000 units, compared to the 10,000 Oceans that exist