I think it’s hard to really point to any mistakes Horner has made, to be honest. He could maybe have managed drivers and their conflicts better - I think he regrets not being able to keep Ricciardo - but I can’t think of any obvious blunders even in that regard. [in hindsight maybe he should have kept Gasly instead of…

I agree, sure, he is not politically correct but this is also the mind game of F1, always has been, and he is very good at it. I honestly respect him a lot for what he accomplished with Red Bull. Winning in F1 is a massive management undertaking and he has managed this team better than most in the paddock.

Lol.  Finally said something sensible?  Have you heard of Mattia Binotto?  Horner is one of the sharper team bosses.

“vehicles sell like crap when they are crap” FIFY

Preach, the Ranger and Colorado where about as “refined” as a combine harvester until the mid/late 2010's redesign.

It also suffers from the C8 thing where the first 2/3rds of it is great, but the rear looks bloated and huge because they tried to maximize trunk space.  

Growing up, I was never a Ford guy or even a muscle car guy. The Mustang Cobra R, however, hung on my wall. What a special car. It always felt like someone at Ford said, “Let’s do the Ferrari F40 thing using a Mustang chassis”

You are not alone my long-roof loving Brother.

You know where this list needs to go?

I’m gonna call it now: A bunch of unfunny internet hack commenters making “Cars and Coffee” references that were already tired 8 years ago but unoriginal people keep repeating.

No one will be rolling in those blackouts...  

I’ll assume that’s sarcasm. The same “best car features/upgrades” question gets asked every other day, to which someone inevitably responds: Fuel Shark. Never gets old. Never.

I have said this forever.  Doubly so with something like this.  This is 100% a WANT car, not a NEED car.  

I’ve been saying this for years about most things.  Oh, you’re tired of high price sports tickets, don’t go.  Tired dealer mark-ups, don’t pay.  You don’t “need” a Z06 or tickets to watch millionaire athletes play for billionaire owners, all while fleecing you for a $5.00 coke.  Good lord.

Yeah, if they auction the allocation, it’s not them setting the price.

Exactly. The interior is way more similar than I expected (which is going to make it the best Dodge interior in forever (when the electronics work)) but those “small” differences in the dash and vents are millions of dollars and years in tooling.

It also straight up sounds like Alfa Romeo thinks they are Ferrari and Maserati just because the old FCA CEO wanted them to get some exclusives...... exclusives the old CEO said was supposed to get Dodge versions of because he knew damn well Alfa Romeo was never gonna fully support the billions they were getting to…

The bucket of bolts sound didn't start until duke bent a pushrod or three. 

So what's wrong with 19th century agricultural equipment?