If they’re that nuts about it, just do cooled suits. Include the suit in the min driver weight criteria.

100% agree, this could be solved on the vehicle side.

It’s the same reason people love cold-weather football games, marathons, or stuff like the MJ “flu game”: we love to see people approach super-human feats.

Track temp ranged from 36 to 40 C, I believe air temp was around 31 C.

drop the ICE regulated min weight to 250-270 lbs and get a big chunk easily. The 2005-era V10s were around 82 kg and developed 950 hp by themselves, putting the turbo V6s at 120 kg wouldn’t even be a challenge. Hell, I bet they could get to 100 kg with the turbo and all associated plumbing.

But they’ve got like $10B in the bank, so they can keep burning for at least 2.5 more years. If they can follow their current trend, they should be able to be profitable by then.

Actually, there is a better way than unionizing, and the government could do it with a policy change:

But my point still stands; the idea that they lose more money for every extra vehicle they sell, is misleading.

I mean....no Model T? Dodge Caravan, the first ever mini van? First gen Ford Focus, the first American small car that actually stood up against the Japanese?

This says more about the state of the world than it does about us having good inflation numbers.

So the headline of 75,000 less people biking....how much of that is due to work from home? I’d like to see this as a percentage of people who commute for work, not a percentage of people who work in general.

When you dig into it, this “theoretical number” does exist, but only if Rivian were to shut down engineering and development.

I get it now. BMW make the most hideous vehicles on the market so that when they release something that’s merely bad, or *gasp* average looking, everyone swoons.

Eh, Tesla had the HUGE advantage of being the first. They beat everyone, legacy automakers included, to making a truly everyday electric car. This means the market was willing to accept how bad those early cars were, how sparse the interior was, how poorly they rode and handled. The novelty went a LOOOOONG way.

I don’t think you’re getting it. The more vehicles they sell, the more losses the company has.

Yea, it’s bad. You know you’ve fallen a long way when Hyundai’s Genesis brand makes much more appealing vehicles for most people. Sure, if I want to lap a track all the time I’d choose a BMW, but then I have to look at it when I get out!

It’s odd because I’ve driven an M340i and M240i, and they drove nicely. Would make a great daily in all honestly....I just can’t stand looking at them.

The answer is probably just “BMW”.

The $1200 must be a calculated number to cover the added warranty risk of pushing more torque through the drivetrain. Safety factor is going down.

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