My Uncle was a Navy gunner on a Merchant Marine ship that got sunk by a U-Boat in WWII. Spent two weeks in a lifeboat in the North Atlantic before getting picked up by  a convoy heading back. His parents got a Telegram saying missing presumed dead. He called a couple weeks later from NY.

Niche vehicles like Roadster and Semi just apparently aren’t a priority in their current business model, and they don’t have the batteries to spare

You fail to realize that it is entirely possible and justified to criticize Elon Musk and Tesla for making wildly ridiculous promises that are never kept on time, if at all, without that also being stanning for the fossil fuel industry.

I wish somebody thought I was credit-worthy enough for a $250k loan at 0% interest and no timetable for repayment.

Wow, can you read?

“Founders Edition put down a full-boat $250,000 over three years ago” for the roadster .

If I were in charge of Rivian, I would be focusing all my energy on making good on the Amazon contract. It is a high volume project with guaranteed revenues. It is also very high visibility, and a win there would get them access to the huge local transport market which is ideal for the range of EV trucks and which…

Glad to see all these “deposits” are just 0% loans he can float for years. Cybertruck gave him $25million Tesla needs more cash? Just say you plan on bringing something out in 2 years. Then 2 years down the road just say well we meant the 2 years was production year so won't hit the road until the year after that. The…

Poor guy is stuck in the middle. He’s criticized for liking the car despite its faults and he’s criticized for explicating its faults despite its bonuses.

Someone needs to politely point out to Sandy Munro that Elon Musk DOES indeed lie, but not by underpromising and overdelivering, but by doing the opposite, at least certainly in this case. Enough of the Tesla Kool-Aid, Sandy.

Whenever I see dates like 2023 it seems like the distant future.

What happened to under-promising and overdelivering?

The problem is that these systems don’t exist yet and won’t for years to come. He’s getting them ready for nothing.

I’m starting to wonder what the point of the next Roadster is? A sports car that’s meant to not be driven? 

That may be, but the FSD technology is not ready for prime time; no matter how much Tesla keeps suggesting that the cars are self-driving. So in reality this is dangerous, it’s teaching people to rely on a system that is not yet fully capable of what they think it is capable of.

Given that it’s apparently working by detecting obstacles, I expect that the issue is less that it’s going to drive into something so much as it’s just going to go in the wrong direction, such as when you’re in a fairly open parking lot so it’ll get confused where it wants to go. 

“After you drive without consistent fit and finish, it gets very annoying to go back!”

I don’t know what everyone is talking about here. I can’t count the number of times that I leave Trader Joe’s and after I put my groceries in my Tesla and after I look through the windshield to see the the curb and the nicely landscaped bushes in front of my Tesla thought “Shit, do I put the car in reverse or drive…

They can’t do a consistent panel gap, but they can predict whether you want to go forward, backward or park. Got it.

This posting reminds me of the parody VW ad the National Lampoon did in the 1970's - they had to issue apologies to both Ted Kennedy and Volkswagen, which vehemently denied any association with the Lampoon parody ad.