Cute, you learned a new word last week. Too bad they're actually Tatars, but hey, at least it demonstrates you know fuck all about the region, its history, and the current situation. Also, "half" the country did not wish to join the EU...it was a much smaller percentage than that. On top of that, did you see the…

Forget to take your meds today?

Are you suggesting that the kidnapping and murder of 3 people justifies bombing an entire country? First, is there any proof that it was done by Palestinians? Second, if it was, so what? Is the entire country equally guilty for the actions of a few people?

I completely agree with you. Why should we be "loyal"? I could absolutely not care less WHO sells me a car. I go in to test drive a car, not set up a relationship with a sales guy. If I like the car, I contact some friends in the industry, who hopefully know a manager I could talk to and get a good deal. Everytime I'm…

This is exactly why dealerships should not exist. A manufacturer WANTS people to test drive their cars. They email me, begging to test drive their car and compare it against a competitor. As a dealer, you could not care less about the vehicle/brand, you just want to sell one and move on. I get it, but unfortunately…

LOL handout? Americans are fucked. She paid into the system, she is within the rules of the system, so she should feel free to use it while giving people like you the finger.

Forgot my login so made a new account to reply.

Maybe our "decent" jobs are a result of a "decent" education which tells me I can use my $50K to make more than the 0.9% I'd be paying for financing. Oh, is someone just butthurt that people in their early 20s are buying better cars than you?

Sorry, but f*ck that. A credit check for a test drive? Hah. Don't come in on a weekend or holiday? I could care less about the car sales guy, and how they get paid. Its not my problem to deal with. I'm not going to come up with tricks and schemes for a chance to test drive a product I'm about to drop $50K on.

I research the shit out of any "high end, luxury vehicle" that I choose to buy, to the point of knowing more about it than the sales guy. I don't give a shit about service; the dealership means nothing to me. Also, what "high end, luxury" vehicles are you buying that you need help figuring out buttons for? iDrive,…

Honestly, mine have been fairly trouble-free. Tons of DIYs out there, parts are actually reasonably priced (I've literally paid less for BMW parts than Toyota charges).

Hey, after 6 BMWs, I was ready for a change. I went to a Cadillac dealer to test drive an ATS. Drove well (shitty engine note and terrible transmission though). The cluster is from an old minivan, the turn signal is from an old minivan, the overhead lights are from an even older minivan, the entire touch interface is…

Yeah, but I personally don't care about BMWs included maintenance. Especially in Canada, because brakes aren't even covered by it. So its just essentially oil changes, which I prefer to do myself anyways, since its easier than making an appointment (I'm lazy). Although they do let me drive some fun cars when I let…

Good for those who like to buy slightly used cars.

My brake fluid was replaced under maintenance...and whats wrong with 15k oil changes? My 99 had 15k oil changes its whole life, and when I sold it at 250k miles, absolutely no carbon build-up under the valve cover, no oil burning, and perfect emissions results.

Well, if the previous owner is skipping maintenance, doesn't that void the warranty anyways? And having owned a number of CPO BMWs, I highly doubt any reconditioning takes place. I've literally had to go into dealerships with a CPO checklist and force them to follow their own rules.

Then how do you explain identical vehicles having much higher tow ratings outside the US?

Wanted to take a break from BMWs, went and test-drove the ATS. Good drive (shitty sounding engine though), but everything else sucks. The cluster looks like its from an old minivan, the overhead lights ARE from an old minivan, the entire touch interface is garbage, and on top of that, the sales guy had no idea what…

Well, I would first like you to point out where the OP said "after a full charge at the race track", since the original discussion specifically mentioned the initial charge ONLY.

Sure, as long as you have brand new tires all the time, on a car with almost no torque, and the ability to constantly focus without ever making a mistake. For the rest of us, traction control is there for those "oh shit" moments.