Ah, the Cleveland Airport circuit was a great one - tons of room for passing, which (at the time) was desperately lacking from F1 circuits given their narrowness. I’ve been posting the same question here for years wondering why F1 can’t have passing like this and I’ve still yet to get an answer. I don’t get it.

That’s a common thread on all these audio comms when something goes south - the pilots are always so chill, like nothing’s amiss. How do they teach that?

This doesn’t look pleasant at all for the driver

If you’re only able to read one publication, it should be The Economist, hands down.

I haven’t followed both F1 and Indycar in forever. The passing (and racing) was always consistently better in Indycar than F1. Also, F1 used to use the excuse that the ‘dirty air’ behind the cars meant a car couldn’t get close enough to pass. Are either of these things still true?

This is the equivalent of San Diego (or Miami, or New Orleans, or ‘fill in any other Southern/dome team’) trying to win in Foxborough post December. Not likely.

I was at that show in Boston a few (5,10?) years ago. Absolutely incredible collection he has.

That is a great looking car. M5 wheels?

Good subject for an article. I have three thoughts:

Are you honestly going to argue that Wranglers aren’t built worse than any of those other vehicles. Love them and everything, but good grief the build quality has Chrysler written all over it.

That makes sense. Just looked in my area. 2017 model prices are about $40-$42K, about $2k below MSRP. Not sure if that’s that big of a deal. I suppose it is vs where they were when they came out.

They are? Weren’t they going for a premium when they came out? This site was nuts about it. What happened?

I can’t even believe I’m going to say this, but I agree with Torchinsky for the first time ever on one of these things.

I’m a little confused. Are they trying to do a full roll, or are you supposed to land on your roof? Ramp seems a bit small for a full roll, so I’ll assume the latter, which is a bit nuts as an objective.

I assume it’s a much cheaper version of those two though, so back to my (maybe stupid) question, would it cannabalize them? I suppose it would - it would likely strip out the buyers of a $40k 4Runner who would happily pay $30k for a stripped diesel version.

Can someone remind me why they wouldn’t bring this here? Does the US require extra emissions/safety stuff that wouldn’t make it profitable? What would it cannabalize? The 4 Runner?

Totally agree. I know David loves to fix up old beaters and believe me, I get it, but the guy with 10 junk cars sitting in his front yard is just creating an eyesore, a blight on the landscape, and a hit to property values. You want to have a bunch of project cars on your property - fine, just put them where no one…

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This stuff is gold. Total car porn.

They may be, but you could not change the oil in that Corolla for 40k miles, bury it in a swamp, yank it back out 2 years later and there’d be a good chance it would start...for a car that is very inexpensive. Try that sort of thing with any German car and their great engineering that gets them such a premium and I…