This is exactly why I voted CP.

Or I could get an E46 M3 with less miles for less money.

it hurt my soul to vote crack pipe on this....because the idea of an M Powered wagon is amazing....but at 17k for a body pushing 200k and an M parts that have done over 100? nah...

“This is an entirely fair price for a clean Sport Pack E46 Touring with a well-done S54 swap.”

I’m abstaining from voting on any more BMWs, due to the fact that I’m sick to death with boredom.

Crack pipe, and I’m sick of all the BMWs, which seem to be the most common marque on NPoCP.

Counterpoint: This is a polished turd that has a drivetrain from a totaled vehicle. Fun car to drive while not caring about it, but not for $17k.

I was going to suggest a Roadmaster.

The sliding doors on my minivan are literally the only reason I can get out of my vehicle after I park it in my driveway.

But you can at least slide the seats forward or even laterally, and the sliding doors give you a LOT more access to the third row, plus lower ground clearance so you’re not hoisting yourself up and into an awkward position to try buckling the kids in.

The Mazda5 isn’t awful. I know, because I own one. And it has been hit at parking lot speeds, twice—and one small dent later in the back, and a wonky bit of plastic in front is the only thing that happened. And it’s got 120k miles on the clock and you still cannot hear the engine at idle—it’s buttery smooth. No, it’s…

I love our Mazda5 van. It’s the perfect vehicle for us. Of course, we have only two kids. so we don’t use the third row. It drives like a car, won’t require you own your own refinery (like an SUV), and is remarkably comfortable for long drives. And we love the sliding doors—because if there’s one thing our kids know…

Get something with sliding doors. Trust me.

I owned a Mazda5 manual. A great car. But also,

I cannot stress how great a sliding door is with small children. My ex-wife had to be cool and get an SUV. You want a Minivan for the next few years. Just embrace this.

I’ve had a Mazda5 for two years, I don’t have kids (yet, first one on the way this Nov), and I’ve loved it! Such a great car. I wish it had Skyactiv, but that’s ok.

Normally I give major shout-outs to anyone who recommends a Mazda5 for anything, as I have a 2010 and it’s been great, but this dude has too many kids for a 5 to work well. Once that third row is up there is very little storage room, and he WILL need storage room... Go with the Kia or the Ford Flex as recommended by…

You will have four children in car seats. At least one of them, but more than likely three, will be rear facing, at least for a while. Rear-facing seats require about 30% more legroom (yes, I know there are no dangling legs, but talking about the space between the seat bottom underneath the kid’s seat to the seat back…

Yep. The last time this issue was discussed the writer did the same thing, and the commenters all pointed out that he addressed the allegations directly.

This is getting boring and a little gross. It’s reminding me of the call for unedited photos of Lena Dunham – skeevy and not what I’d expect from this site.