I wouldn’t call this a plothole, not exactly, even if it’s breaking some people’s suspension of disbelief. Coincidences and randomness are a fact of life... but not facts of fiction, where they look a lot more artificial. That’s what’s happening here - yes, it could happen but it makes a lot of people go ‘yeah this is…

Sure! But I find it an unhappy ending. Like, to go through shit again and not be able to stop it sounds like a nightmare scenario for me, not a happy ending. And the movie shows it as a 100% happy ending, while I’m going ‘most versions here involve a lot of weirdness and fucked-upness, movie’.

Yep. It’s like ‘look if you’re gonna act like there was a reset button, then you should’ve gone for the reset button’. The timeskip is a logistical nightmare and considering most of the surviving characters were Snapped, I doubt it’s gonna be a thing. So then why do it at all?

Yeah. My issue with it is not... the logic. It’s that it’s so obviously convenient in order to avoid showing exactly how much of a bummer Endgame’s ending is. (Basically - instead of focusing on the people who, for example, got back and realized their family members had committed suicide or died in the meantime or…

I... i know, dude. I was arguing against the idea that a time loop made sense.

Sharon Carter makes out with her uncle, then. I mean, it’s bad writing! That’s simply what it is - the Russos and M&M wanted Steve to get his dance and didn’t particularly think about it. No version will make sense, not entirely

They didn’t. They confirmed both. Russos said ‘branches’ - which has the problem of What Happened To That Branch’s Steve Rogers - and the writers said ‘time loop’.

Dude, I’m talking about the time loop version of it. If it’s a time loop, HYDRA infiltration must happen.

Bringing the stones back =/= eliminating the branches because then you have the question of how the hell do we explain 2014!Thanos’ death or Loki escaping with the Tesseract. Bruce’s explanation, as well, denies the possibility of a time loop.

?? Okay, are we talking about the same interviews? Because either Markus or McFeely went with the time loop theory which breaks how the time travel is shown to work in the movie and means that HYDRA never once checked how the husband of the Director of SHIELD even looks like (and that either Sharon knowingly made out…

Eh, the writers’ version also makes no sense with the rest of the movie they wrote (or the previous movies they wrote!).

The Russos have also said that in CW, Steve processes his emotions really well.

Like I said, I love PA Steve Rogers. Makes me understand why Tony didn’t call back.

‘Business as usual’, surely. Heroes punching each other is established comics tradition.

I like that the apology is also a terrible PA non-apology. ‘I know that you believed you were right! Also you got the Avengers (all two of them!)‘.

The fact that the Russos didn’t let Wanda be more of her AoU self here is super annoying. She’s also a Sokovian reacting out of anger from her parents’ death! She has the backstory that’s a perfect foil for Zemo, T’Challa and Tony.

He also shows footage of Johannesburg - the main thing behind the Accords is not just the disasters, it’s that they’re disasters on foreign soil by an American-backed team. That’s why the Accords are presented by the UN

Idk if I’d call it a rivalry, but yes, I liked that IW seemed to expand on what CW hints at. I don’t think there’s anything that says Rhodey liked to pull rank,. though. He calls him ‘Sammie’ in IW. They seem to like each other.

I think ‘anger about seeing your mom murdered’ is the kind of thing that needs no build-up. It’s his mom, dude.

It’s still a... interesting choice to have the most visible Latino character in the movies be a former criminal.