I have a very conflicted relationship to Luis. OTOH, when I tell stories it’s basically like that, down to the random primos. Buuut he is the only prominent Latino character and he’s a criminal.

I realized how obvious that was when I rewatched the ending reveal of Down with Love.

And the conflict is really understandable. There’s never a hint that Cassie’s mom or stepdad are wrong to mistrust Scott. They want him to succeed, but they also want to protect Cassie.

Sokovia is a really common, shallow stereotype of the Balkans. Johannesburg is more than 500 km away from the coast. It’s still a very US-centric movie and totalling Seoul doesn’t detract from that.

Yep! Even the romance that AoU hints at would have been more interesting.

The scene in Johannesburg that makes no geographical sense? The bits in Stereotypical Balkan Country? That was supposed to make it look less US-centric?

You can have that happen in NY. The issue is that they go to SK and then back to the US and then to Sokovia. You can have Helen Cho in the Tower and the twins turning point being there too.

Both Wanda and Vision were so much interesting in AoU.

I do believe Clint’s speech is also part of those cogs and gears, now that we’re moving into the next gen Avengers. It’s the first time we see the Avengers themselves laying out who gets to be an Avenger.

Whedon was better at handling the cast, instead of the plot.

Cap calls him out at least twice (plus it’s not just his responsibility! Bruce and Wanda share that guilt t oo).

YES. The AoU re-assessing has started. It’s a far more interesting movie than CW or IW, tbh. It fails at what it tries to do, but it’s this close to being a great movie.

I’m still dissapointed we didn’t get that one.

I think you’re underselling the insanity of that plot.

Cap, consistently, follows orders until he doesn’t want to. he just wants to less and less. But he never blindly followed orders.

Sadly, both CW and IW showed that the Russos aren’t that good at the CGI punch ups because nothing they’ve done has really gotten near that kind of sequence.

A friend always jokes that Steve was such a bad soldier that they gave him his own platoon and let him do whatever because he wasn’t going to follow orders.

Yeah, dude, they forgot Africa and the Middle East, which is why I said ‘not worldwide for a long time.’ Two years isn’t a long time.

He never really believes in the powers that be. His first act as Captain America is to ignore orders and go rogue.

TBH, I wouldn’t even classify the type of action in Ragnarok alongside the type of action in WS. It’s just going for a different vibe.