$5k for exterior, I believe.

A performance car beats a luxury car in performance metrics? Color me surprised.

Yeah I’m not making any argument. I’m not the person you originally replied to, I just don’t believe it’s true about what you said about these being weekend cars.

The whole point of a sedan like the Alfa is that you can and do use it as a daily driver. This isn’t some two seat sports car, why would you not daily drive it?

By sleeper do you mean puts the driver to sleep?

Comfort access was made standard in 2016.

Despite the circlejerk, the new turbo M3/M4 do redline at something crazy like 7800, which is still higher than all but a few naturally aspirated engines. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of another street legal turbocharged car that has a higher redline.

All of the models you mentioned other than the AMG Blacks (and only because they made so few) have depreciated pretty hard. I’m not saying they don’t depreciate, I’m saying they depreciate less rapidly than ordinary BMWs or Mercs.

Plain vanilla BMW’s, Mercedes’s , etc. depreciate like a rock. M’s, at least, hold their value much better than BMW’s as a whole and don’t have nearly as rapid of a depreciation curve.

Everyone is indeed entitled to an opinion, even if yours is wrong :) With regards to the F80, dem fender flares. Enough said.

“Meanwhile, the E63 and E63 S have finally been both fitted with an all-wheel-drive system. This was inevitable.”

I respectfully disagree. Despite what everyone’s general circle jerk for the E46 M3 may indicate, very few exhausts give the S54 an exhaust note that I’d describe as pleasant. Just rasp, rasp and more rasp.

Roughly 25%, at least in the M3's/M4's case. Certainly not a majority but not insignificant.

Which M3 competitor even offers a manual besides the ATS-V?