That's my point exactly. Jezebel and most of its readers seem to want it both ways - they want alleged victims to be believed without question, and when their stories are reported and don't add up, they blame it solely on the publication. If RS had followed up and fact checked, the result would have been that the…

I'm not victim bashing, and something traumatic probably didn't happen to her. But what exactly do you expect the college - and rolling stone for that matter - to do, if her story won't withstand scrutiny and is full of holes? Do you want public opinion, or a court, to convict some guys based on a story full of…

I don't doubt that something traumatic happened, and that she was raped. But she's changed her story and there are inconsistencies and, unfortunately, that does diminish someone's credibility.

I want to know why everyone ignores the fact that Jackie's story doesn't add up, and that that's on her, not RS or anyone else.

Well RS got the story and the details from Jackie. So yeah, they should have checked facts, but the discrepancies came from Jackie's story.

Rolling Stone didn't make that story up. That's the story she told them. Why is everyone acting like RS is to blame for the discrepancies, when they acted in good faith and believed her at her word? You know, the way you want us to, without question?

They're not minor details. I would imagine you would know if you were raped in the fall or in the spring.

No, the women in her support group have also questioned her story. They've said that while they do believe she suffered some kind of trauma, the story she's told them doesn't add up.

Why are people so willing to call her a liar?

because children are minors and can't consent, and raping or abusing children is a crime.

Fake fur is also ugly as hell and doesn't look or feel anywhere near the same as the real thing. I'd rather not wear any fur at all, and any fur I do have is vintage.

Or Jackie fucked up by not being truthful? If you decide to go public with your story, and take in the responsibility that your story will be in the spotlight and used to shed light on an issue, it helps to be credible. Yes, I know that's harsh but like others have pointed out, it's not just the frat's letter, there…

Why does it have to be either or? Why should anyone "choose" to believe every woman, every time? Why can't we be rational adults and decide on a case by case basis?

I think over the top proposals are stupid and cheesy but I don't share your view that this is problematic. If this guy had never mare GPS art before in his life, I'd agree. But this "Yassan is known for his GPS artwork", kind of negates the rest of your arguments. This is what the guy does. So him choosing to work…

Not in as many words but she's clearly not a fan of heterosexual sex and definitely sees an inherent violence in even consensual sex acts. She's way too radical and counter-productive for my tastes.

She's the nutter who said all heterosexual sex is rape, right? Once you say something that ridiculous, it doesn't matter if 90% of what you say actually makes sense, because people will only remember the incredibly stupid shit you said, even if it's only a small part of what you have to say. She's a moron.

isn't Dworkin that crazy, ugly, man-hating old hag who thinks all heterosexual sex is rape?

The NHS is just trying to save money. It's the same in Canada and other places with public healthcare. I have friends who didn't even have a single ultrasound after 6 months pregnancy and that's why they kick out of hospital practically the minute they cut the cord. I doubt home births are best, they're just trying to…

You don't. Believe them, I mean. And I don't say that to insult victims of domestic violence - I say that because I'm sure lying is how they justify staying in the relationship. They lie to themselves, to their friends and family and, in janay's case, to the media.

because you don't and she's still in denial.