@avclub-e329caccd50119a7e020cb5532f30569:disqus Plot devices which don't make logical sense - don't work!  You're presenting a false choice, that either it was the plot they gave us in the movie, or no movie at all.  I say they bungled it and it could have been improved upon, and you say this is the best of all…

Not really a war, Gowron suspended the Khitomer Accords briefly when his government was infiltrated by a Founder disguised as General Martok.  There was some fighting and border skirmishes but nothing like the battles of the Dominion War…I don't think.  Might need to rewatch some DS9 to confirm!

"Smart?"  Really?  The first movie alone was badly, badly impaired by nonsense.  A supernova destroying a galaxy, a villain so dumb he doesn't even realize he's in the past and can now prevent the thing he's so angry about, Spock being totally out of character and letting a major historical change stand without going…

It's a question of whether you think Abrams was making a sincere homage to 1980s Spielberg, or just co-opting that style because he wants to follow the man's career arc.  I could go either way on it.  The movie was a huge mess so I don't feel like revisiting it.

No, YOU really, really, really don't get it.  My opinion is just as valid as yours.  I'm not a hater, I'm not a purist, I like all different kinds of STAR TREK and science fiction and action movies, and I went into the 2009 film hoping and expecting to love it.  Incredibly psyched and looking forward to a fresh take,…

I don't have a problem with the look of them - even those flares, although he goes way overboard almost out of spite sometimes.  There is a real visual vibrancy here.  It's just wasted, I think.

The mechanism for that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  There seem to be two concepts supposedly operating simultaneously, even though they are contradictory - "This is a new timeline and anything can be different" and "Time is reasserting itself because things are destined to be."  And that's not even explicitly…

Maybe it's a misunderstanding or misapplication of the terminology.  To me, a reboot is a completely separate continuity.  BATTLESTAR GALACTICA '03 was a reboot.  There was no connection with the earlier series except common names and concepts.  STAR TREK '09 was not a reboot.  It was (nominally) set within the same…

You just said you want him portrayed with his human side in full control.  That's not Spock.  Spock doesn't bellow and scream and engage in ridiculous fist fights.  At least the real, original Spock doesn't.  This dumbass nu-Spock does I guess.

It's not a reboot.  It's supposed to be the same timeline, now changed and being rewritten (thus erasing all of the old shows and movies).  If they wanted a reboot, they should have done that.  Just started over, like BATTLESTAR GALACTICA did.

I think if you want Spock to not be Spock then STAR TREK is probably not for you.

But they're terrible.  Mindless, overwhelming visual stimuli.  Can't they just hold a camera still and let somebody talk for five minutes and give them something interesting and intelligent to say?  Are modern audiences that battered into dimwitted apathy that it's TRANSFORMERS-level spectacle or else they tune out?

Somebody in one of these threads likened the new cast's portrayal to karaoke singing, and that seems pretty apt to me.  Urban is doing karaoke McCoy, he's not really acting.  He's doing an impression of DeForest Kelley's McCoy.  I'd say most of the cast is doing this.  They're far from the worst part of these…

That's a huge problem (one of many) with Abrams' nu-Trek: this idea of destiny he's shoehorned into the setting, clearly showing his preference for STAR WARS.  It's idiotic to suggest that it's more important to the universe or the spacetime continuum or Destiny that Chekov is on the Enterprise mangling English than…

Date better women?

Also CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS #7.

You're not getting it.  The movie is in on how he is pandering to the townsfolk.  We are supposed to be cringing as we watch Lao.  He's putting on an act for the other characters in the movie.

Her?

Sexist!!!

GIRLS seems almost - almost - tailor-made to fit the sensibilities and interests of, well, of people who end up being television critics, so it's not that surprising that most of them love the show.