Yeah, I get that—but you still have to buy the cigarettes and bother with them all the time. Makes more sense to fail to exercise or eat healthy food.

Haha, thanks!

I didn't say my daughters were children.

Because you wrote that "it made perfect sense for someone brazen and honest like Pamela to question that. She had to question that…". And I'm saying she didn't "have to", Louie decided to have her do it.

I think it's realistic, but I also find it uncomfortable that Louie is presented as the rooting interest on the show. I'm not jazzed about the message this sends to young, impressionable men and women.

"A kiss" where you drag someone around a room while they flail and kick, and try to pull their clothes off as they struggle?

It's hard to say what exactly he was trying to do. How do you explain his trying to pull her clothes off?

I read an interview where Adlon told him "people are going to get mad at you" after they filmed that scene, but it sounds like he basically shrugged it off.

I agree with you, except that I'm a worse person in that I *didn't* have trouble enjoying parts 2 and 3. It was only in retrospect, reading comments like yours, that I remembered "oh yeah, that was kind of fucked up, what he did earlier".

Of course you are supposed to be rooting for the character. Look at how parts 2 and 3 played out! C'mon with this.

Did you miss where he was forcibly pulling her clothes off?

Yes, precisely. I like the final two parts a lot, on their own. But I really, really, really wish he had filmed that earlier scene differently.

"If she felt his actions were intentional, she'd have told him to fuck off when he called her in Part 2."

Also pulling off her clothes. But I agree that it was not *quite* attempted rape. It was some kind of lesser degree sexual assault though.

I'm on your side in this, but I'm wondering: what's wrong with replying months later?

How about feeling that I don't want my daughters to see things like this and take the lesson that it's acceptable behavior and they should just shake it off or whatever?

The people near the end were cool. There were a couple other cool bits. But a lot of it was lame. It's too bad that in the art world, everyone always feels obsessed with having to do something different from what has come before. I think this impulse worked right up to the '50s and '60s with Abstract Expressionism…

Yes! So much this.

But the point is, what was cool about it before is that it was a minor surreal background thing, in that it was something no one noticed. That was erased by Pamela taking note of it.

"I liked it better when it was just minor background surrealism resulting from a casting choice."