Well its not that funny, having to haul less fuel improves mileage too. Less dead weight to haul around. Suspect it would most benefit city driving vs highway, not that highway would get no benefit from less weight.

at this point I’d just buy something used.

Gotta wondered how engineered itll be against say.... a high pressure carwash.

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Thats the funny thing, with how many government contracts they get (space X at the least)... they kinda are.

I was wrong, it was Lucid, not Rivian whos got Pif money.  I mis rememebred.  Hard to keep those EV startups straight with all the money flying around whats going where.

nope I was wrong. I mis remembered. It was lucid not Rivian. Im not sure who is invested in rivian aside from VW.

oh for electric im 100% going semi used.

only knock on Rivian is the heavy investment by the Saudi PiF... in case thats a no go for you.

yeah never sat in one, because well Ill never own one.

Let alone 100k wagoneers.  Though at least the wagoneers interior looks impressive.

R2 could be an option, but thats still 2 years out at least and thats if Rivian lives long enough to get it out.

wagons already dont sell, now throw the EV can of worms at that.  Not sure it would win a ton of people over (right or wrong here).

This kinda bums me out, surprises me? no. But definitely bums me out.

When the volumes on 100k trucks is so low, its a pretty low bar to clear for “best selling” I mean yeah of course you technically did, but really?

Id kill for a ranger sized R2T.

pretty much my assessment for the most part.

ok so I can hit 60 in 2nd, but Im also on the FA20, and my redline is like 6600rpm. So unless subaru tweaked the gear ratios around, im not sure a 2025 with the 2.4L can.

damn thats stupidly tempting (Elon.. why be such a potato). I meant not the used market mind you but new.  Granted I guess even for regular cars cheap speed isnt a thing anymore either :\

I sat in one [leaf] a few years ago and it had some pretty poor sightlines for a compact hatch.