skellington187
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skellington187

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You are correct. I had a momentary case of the stupid, and I’m not too proud to admit it. The rest of the point stands.

You’re absolutely correct, and there needs to be a reckoning, but it can’t be after one side cheated in the game for years.

More and more people are leaving the rural backward states.  The 2020 census is going to give even more representatives to the “coastal elite” states.  Even with gerrymandering, I doubt the GOP is going to be able to take back control of the house.

The answer to Republicans gaming the system in their favor is not to game the system in the Democrats’ favor the minute the opportunity presents itself. It’s to restore it to as close to impartial as we can and do what we can to make sure it stays impartial.

Agree. You are not being hyperbolic at all.

Take a breathe. Gerrymandering has it’s limits. If it didn’t, 2018 would have worked out very differently.

Eh, I’d argue that Citizens United is more damaging, if only because it siphoned so much political power out of the public sphere.

Short of a candidate who says they’ll give everyone a billion dollars, 2 unicorns in their garage, all men a 10 inch dick and all women perfectly firm 36 C breasts, these far left idiots are always going to find a reason to not vote for the Democrats nominee.

As I’ve said in response to the people who complain that they need to see [x] from the Democratic Party before they’ll stand up and vote... that’s just their current excuse.

No. Donald Trump was elected by less than 26% of eligible voters.

Gerrymandered districts have basically no impact on statewide elections, so really had no impact on the 2016 presidential election. 

Yeah but voting is a slow process and not fun. It’s much more fun to rave online about purging your life of evil. 

gerrymandering has nothing to do with presidential elections. try again. 

Not really though. The reason we have trump even though Clinton won a greater absolute number of votes nation wide is the electoral college. Which would exist without gerrymandering. But I guess the voter suppression laws implemented in states which had a gop majority in the state legislature in part due to

Gerrymandering has almost no effect on the presidential election. All of a given state’s electoral votes are distributed to the state-wide victor in every state except for Maine and Nebraska. Gerrymandering is bad, and it’s why we have so many Republican supermajorities in state legislatures, but it’s not the reason

Turnout was still lower than predicted. Democrats had to win the popular vote by a couple more points to win. Meaning if more people (especially those in key areas) turned out, she should have won. It’s not rocket science. It’s not like her winning the popular vote by that margin means all popular votes never matter.

Yes, look at it this way! If we can squeak out some legitimate gains in 2020, SCOTUS has just upheld our right to gerrymander ourselves into power. We can do it too. Gotta get there first. We have gerrymandering to overcome in 2020, but those lines have largely stayed the same in most places for the past decade. This