Exactly what I’m saying. The idea of “if it’s not M4A/single payer, it’s not good enough” is reductive bullshit

I’m a troll because I disagree with doing something that’s doomed to failure?

As to why/how they would work here? I’m not the one who made the assertion, they are; it’s on them to show evidence not me. It works just fine elsewhere (in the case of Germany it’s worked fine since 1883), so why not here?

I would say the reason there hasn’t been “an honest attempt” lately is because there is a literal 0.0% chance of it happening since the GOP controls the Senate and White House. When the Dems control both, sure, push it as hard as possible but right now? Why waste political capital on something that’s going to be dead…

But the question becomes, if M4A were to be shot down at any point in the process would you (or seemingly far too many others) get behind other proposals that could be implemented or just complain that your preferred solution didn’t happen?

You do realize that your post literally focuses on one word while completely ignoring that rest of the point and context, right?

I feel like we’re talking past each other a bit. I wouldn’t argue against almost any system as long as it’s better than our current one, which just about anything would be

Germany

That’s what I said

1. Pretty much everywhere with universal health care does, actually

Exactly. Plus, this is why incrementalism is necessary sometimes because it shows people that GOP fear mongering is bullshit (as evidenced by continually increasing approval numbers for ACA) and makes it easier to take the next step. As we’ve seen, making a major change is going to result in much more backlash

“Even if you don’t go bankrupt it doesn’t need to and SHOULDN’T be a major part of your finances. We can have health care that isn’t a real drain on anyone”

“It’s Medicare for All or Nothing”

“if Trump accuses someone else of being deficient in any way, it’s guaranteed that it’s an area in which he performs poorly” 

Being a white guy I’d love to get them by “speaking” in ASL, just to see what they’d do

Go ahead and let them do it. I’m sure *dozens* of people will show up (along with the hundreds of others who would show up as a counter)

I can see that. All I ever do is laugh at his insanely stupid takes on...everything

“bUt We NeEd To GeT hIm On ReCoRd!!!”

I’m not sure why that doesn’t happen more often

“MAHKY MAHK”