Oh I'm sorry, did you need another example? Mark Wahlberg robbing a store and blinding a clerk in one eye? Guess he was 16, so he should get a pass. You really need me to give you examples of celebrities that have committed more egregious acts and been given chances at redemption? Let's stick to the NFL: Leonard…

Listen: I am extremely, EXTREMELY passionate about how FUCKED UP and broken our justice system is. You need to let that sink in fully. And I am MUCH MUCH MUCH more passionate about that than I am about Ray fucking Rice.

That's totally fair and I agree.

LOL okay, human pitchfork. Nah, actually, I wholeheartedly believe Ray Rice deserves a second chance. Especially considering the precedent that has been set in the NFL. Hey asshole, why don't you go throw a fit about the fact that Ray McDonald was fucking PLAYING after being arrested for domestic violence. Hey…

You do you. Like I said, if Mike Tyson can literally rape a woman and get roles in movies, I am inclined to give Rice a second chance considering his history. Anyway, be consistent, and make sure you know that these people are pieces of shit as well: http://www.ranker.com/list/celebriti…

No, not at all. He deserved to get suspended and deserved to get prosecuted. I do not think he deserves the level of vitriol he gets, or to be the posterchild for domestic violence because there was a video.

I'm not really upset about it - it's a little annoying that people (including you) think I go around defending serial abusers on the reg when that's the complete opposite of my viewpoint and personality. Like I said to you before, everything you said is spot on — I'm just inclined to give HIM specifically a chance at…

That's the law, man. A conditional discharge is par for the course for a punch like that. Someone I knew in college was actually beaten by three people at Harrah's AC in 2011 — and when I say beaten, I mean BEATEN, like on the floor, kicked in the face, missing teeth... the people who jumped him had clean records, all…

I've been hit by my parents, I've been hit by my girlfriend. I've seen my Mom and Aunt come to blows. Pretty sure they both still love me. I've seen brothers hit eachother. I think what makes this TRULY egregious is that he's a man putting his hands on a woman, and furthermore, a fucking NFL player who knows he is FAR…

Just to add to this, I'm not some psychopath that goes around defending domestic violence abusers. I think it's despicable. He probably deserved more of a legal fallout than he got considering the size difference between the two of them.

I have no problem calling it assault (I don't think it was felonious considering he got a conditional discharge just like anyone who would be in that situation would be, but if you want to call it that, that's fine).

incredibly insightful commentary. joshua david, you are the MAN!

OJ stabbed two people to death. How the fuck can you even compare this? Jesus, do you have shit for brains?

Fair point. The fact of the matter is neither one of us will never know whether this thing was serial. I'm just less inclined to believe he was a serial abuser based on the things I and others know about him. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you're wrong. But it's definitely not as open and shut as people here are making it out…

so what do you want to call it?"mistake - an action or judgment that is misguided or wrong."

btw, I made ZERO excuses. saying "ray rice hates women" is fucking laughable. And you can FUCK yourself for saying I "hate women". I never have and never would put my hands on a girl. I am not a gun toting, bible thumping, red state, pro police abuse, gamergate conservative who thinks women "have it coming". The…

if replacing incident with punch makes you happier, or even a worse word like abuse makes it better, fine. I used the word "incident" because it's clear this is now about more than just the punch, considering how much press goodell/the NFL have gotten about how they handled the situation.

i woke up early and doubled up my adderall because I have a report to finish up. anyway, I don't really care whether or not you give a fuck. You are coming off as a dense person who is stringent in their views and refuses to actual get to know anything about a situation beyond what's on the surface. However, hopefully…

and yes, I will consider myself a ray rice defender, because I believe based on what he has done for my hometown and my community, plus my experiences with him, he deserves a second chance. I'd consider him the exception to the rule when it comes to something like this, because usually, I'd have the pitchforks out…

well shit, if you're going to be a condescending bitch, that's your prerogative. Fact of the matter is that all available evidence and judgements on his character, coupled with MY anecdotal experiences with him, point to the fact that this is an isolated incident. So you can try and contend that he is some atrocious…