Yeah, again, YMMV and CarMax certainly has a certain sort of buyer, and I don’t think that buyer is looking for trucks.  If you were trying to sell your old Camry or something, you’d get an offer much closer to private sale value.

May be obvious, but it’s worth going to CarMax or someone just to get a “floor” for your car, knowing that you’ve got a guaranteed offer for a week (and could probably get the same money for it after that). Sure, it won’t be top dollar, but you’re also not going to get the kind of insanity that crawls out of the…

You know what? You’re totally right and for some reason, I was thinking of JD Power (which uses vehicle registration info from states to send it to everybody).

It’s sorta interesting that Infiniti is so high on the list and Nissan so low, and Kia does well while sister/parent company (eww) Hyundai does not. I think it speaks to how small issues with specific models can greatly affect these rankings. That’s really important, because most people cross-shop similar models…

I think it’s legit to count any issue with the car having the features you pay for, but I wish there was an easy way to sort out “critical” vs. “non-critical,” but that’s hard to do objectively.

You do, but a lot of people don’t, and keep in mind that some infotainment systems do actually provide info. I realize this is an extreme case, but if the “infotainment” system on a Model3 is on the fritz, you’re also out your speedometer, odometer, climate control and everything else.

It’s not only CR members that get the survey, though.

That’d be true, if the value of old Land Rovers was even remotely logical. It isn’t. People pay a decent chunk of change for an older model that will cost enough in repairs over 3-5 years to buy a new Honda Civic for reasons that are completely beyond me.

It’s nuts that car companies want their own infotainment system. I don’t want Honda designing my touchscreen computer any more than I want Lenovo making a lawnmower.

Hegewisch: Indiana culture, Illinois taxes.

Actually, that part of IN is the ONE PLACE within a couple hundred miles that is “red” on the WHO’s map, though the “center” of the issues seems to be around Merrillville, not Gary.  It’s crazy that all of the pollution from the people and industry in/around Chicago still result in a “green” map for (this size…

Most people - the vast majority - who get opioids don’t get addicted. I’ve never really liked them - I took one after I had an operation once, felt more “off” than better, and didn’t take the rest (or the ones I was prescribed after a follow up).

It’s not a serious problem. The serious problem is now doctors are afraid to prescribe patients suffering from chronic pain the medication they need

At least that way, everytime he jacked off, he could be hate fucking himself instead of having to pay a guy to do it for him.

When you actually look at the 2 listings, the dealer for the Spark said it was for employee pricing + all possible discounts (which impossible to get at the same time - you can’t be a GM employee and a student and in the military), and excluded “dealer installed accessories,” like $500 floor mats or whatever.

Yeah, but when you actually read the listing, the Spark ($11,558 on that list) has seller notes that say “All prices are GM Employee pricing plus tax... Pricing includes all eligible rebates and up to $4000 dealer flex cash. - Not all vehicles qualify. Must finance with GM Financial... Dealer installed accessories and…

It’s a “choice” the “senior people” make “voluntarily.”

Part of me thinks its perfectly fine to look at the costs of vehicle ownership as a monthly budget item, since that’s the way most of our budgets work.

Honestly, if you learn only one thing from Tom’s strategy, it should be that it makes sense to find the car you want, then shop for it separately  - via email, getting an out-the-door price before you walk in.

A ton of mid-range cars have options that’ll add ~50% to the price, but actually doubling it is pretty extreme.