Makes you appreciate how special Isle of Man TT is as well as the NW200.

This is fucking stupid. It’s Motorsport, risk is assumed, it comes with the territory. 

Those seats are there to make insurance cheaper. 

So, are you arguing that state-level management of Medicaid, Medicare, and SCHIP are also unconstitutional?

In general, any emissions that cannot be completely eliminated are going to be correlated with fuel efficiency. CO2 emissions and fuel economy are basically two sides to the same coin, but emissions such as NOx have a weaker correlation.

You are confusing health insurance with health care.

If you want to have California dictate policy to the rest of the country...

That’s exactly right and why this whole thing is dumb. They can make every car CA compliant and be fine with the feds but they play both sides to virtue signal while they pinch pennies at the same time. 

We should have one single national standard for fuel economy/emissions. To that end while we should uphold the more stringent emissions requirements for the sake of lowering our environmental impact, California should not be able to force their standards on the rest of the country or become the de-facto regulator. As…

1) nothing is preventing automakers from voluntary increasing their corporate average.

Yuppers - GM went to the trouble and expense to design patent a clutch-by-wire system for a mid-engine application. They are absolutely planning for the potential eventuality of a manual in their only mid-engine vehicle.

We’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one as I’d say historically significant and special are most certainly synonymous when we’re talking about iconic cars. This is a major redesign of one of the most iconic sports cars in the world that has been in the works for about half a century. The 350r, while it’s…

I appreciate where you’re coming from, but more rare and more special are not necessarily synonymous. I’m not saying the 350r won’t be collectable, but in the terms of historically significant cars, the first mid-engine Corvette will certainly be more important than a rare trim level on a mustang.

It’s going to be super embarrassing when a Z51 C8 beats the amazingly-underwhelming FGT around some racetrack (and sounds 100000x better doing it).

I’m gonna be blunt.  I really don’t give a fuck about cars that are unobtainable.  Frankly, Ford can Fuck off with all their GT bullshit.  They originally wanted to beat Ferrari, now it seems they want to become Ferrari.

And, once the hoopla dies down, you can generally walk into any dealer and ORDER a Base Corvette at List and not need to wait three years.... AGain, unlike Tesla.

Fellow crotchety boomer here. I’m ordering one up. 

The (Audi) R8 is dead, long live the C8.

Boomer here, and past owner of several generations of Corvettes.

Relationship ended with Cayman GT4. Now Corvette is my new best friend