If you heard the cut above on the radio, I'd be inclined to agree. Considering that's not the case, I think getting outraged about it is snobby. She's clearly not being paid for her singing prowess. That's not scandalous, it's common sense.

The wizard's curtain was ripped away years ago. Most of us were having this conversation then. Heavy studio engineering is an open secret and the majority of the world couldn't care less so long as the final product sounds decent.

Again, you're unwillingness to listen to pop music is admirable. We all envy your fragile sensibilities.

You're missing my point: people don't have to listen to shitty singers. Shitty singers become good, sometimes great singers through through studio magic. And since most music consumption isn't live, it doesn't matter if the singer is bad in the recording room so long as it sounds great by the time it hits the radio,…

The only difference between us is that I recognize there's room for both alright music and moving music in the world. Sometimes I'm in the mood for one, sometimes the other.

It is now. Pop stars don't need to sing anymore. They just need strong enough delivery to sound good with autotune. The majority of their job description is visual (pictures, music videos, tours, interviews), the music is just the medium of delivery and it's handled by engineers and producers. If you want a great…

Pop artists aren't necessarily professional singers, though. Plenty of them are just theatrical, studio-produced cultural amalgams designed to sell sell sell. And if a computer can do the singing for them, even better. I think the snobbery is holding low-art to high-art standards. The music still sounds alright and…

Thanks very much, I'm excited to go back!

I agree! I guess "want" isn't the best word... I'm not talking about actual desires so much as the basket of factors that result in the decision to buy cheap meat. I'm one of those poor folks who, eleven months out of twelve, cannot afford to buy quality meat from happy animals on honest-job-providing farms. I'm 21,…

Right, that's what I said, or meant to say anyway. And, to be clear, I'm absolutely not advocating taxing factory farms into oblivion, or making a value judgement on people's appetite for cheap meat. Just callin' it like I see it.

Alas, people in a free-market who want to eat meat but can't afford pasture-fed at current consumption levels will, obviously, always choose the cheaper option, irrespective of the consequences (especially consequences that don't visibly, directly impact them in any way beyond said low price). Of course, if we taxed…

That makes sense! Thanks for the insight.

Was young enough not to recognize the song until the chorus hit. Golden moment.

Wait, isn't the fear the whole point?

There are a million real-life injustices occurring right now that deserve our attention and energy. Why are we trivializing racial violence and discrimination with garbage like this?

We're going to see nationalist fascism rule again in our lifetimes, guaranteed.

Too true. It's the whole notion that non-violent prejudice is harmless that protects the worst offenders on every level (socially, legally, psychologically). Eradicating that idea will be a major tipping point for many equality movements in the future.

I'm pretty certain they're thinking something more along the lines of "racists are horrible people and I'm not a horrible person so I must not be racist." Plenty of folks are under the (delusional) impression that ethnic cleansing and full-time racial violence are mandatory prerequisites for "true" racism, and any…

No need to apologize haha, it did me no harm. I enjoy hashing this stuff out.

You appear hella unsympathetic, hence my comment. I don't know what you think I'm reaching for by the way. Anyway, moving on: