No, they don’t.

Did you even look at the accusations? Not likely something a line worker would have had access to.

Plenty of people DO buy Ford cars.

Ford sold more Fusions last year than at any time in the first generation. They sold nearly 600,000 cars total. Rationally, they could have killed the Fiesta and the Taurus and would likely have kept most of those sales. Would have given them about 250k Fusion sales from people…

No. Some of the best engineering schools are in the Midwest. They’ve never had trouble before, they won’t now. And I guarantee you that a 1.2% income tax is one of the last things recruits will think about. And virtually none of them will give a lick of care about Detroit or Dearborn.

Your ridiculous hatred of Detroit…

Actually, its 2.4%, and if you aren’t a Detroit resident, its 1.2%.

You VASTLY overestimate how quickly people will quit over a work location change. My office once moved - a good 50% greater increase in commute distance than what Ford would be doing, and with a greater increase in income tax rates. Nobody quit.

Seriously - you’re talking about at MOST a 1.2% increase in income taxes…

Companies never really care about income taxes their workers pay. Its all about the taxes the company pays.

Hell, locally, GE struck a deal with the city where the city collects a 2.1% income tax on GE workers and then gives the company 85% of the collections, or about 1.785% of payroll. The city only keeps the…

4th:

Well, At least Ford was only asking for 1/3 of the renovation costs. Toyota and Mazda were demanding tax incentives and kickbacks equal to about 63% of the entire cost of their new plant.

You want a more detailed analysis? Here you go:

Average residential cost of electricity nationwide is 12.99 cents per kWh
Average commercial cost of electricity nationwide is 10.47 cents per kWh
Average industrial cost of electricity nationwide is 6.64 cents per kWh.

At an electric cost of 6 cents per kWh, DOE estimates…

Nothing. I want to know nothing about it.

Whenever you talk about government, current means current policy. The current policy is a set of standards that slowly increases.

Part of the issue is that the choices of individuals have a societal cost that isn’t accounted for. If you choose to drive a 5 mpg tank, the cost of it doesn’t entirely fall on you. I have to subsidize it through higher income and sales taxes to pay for roads, I lose air quality, we have more global warming, etc.

If…

Not sure if this is sarcastic or not.

There are differences between commercial, industrial, and residential rates many places. Sometimes residential is more expensive, sometimes it isn’t. But who said charging would be under residential rates even? There’s a Walmart near me with DC fast charging stations (this is Ohio,…

This x100.

I was shocked at what Ford C-Maxs were going for used - until I saw what the true price of a new one was, and it was no longer shocking.

I truly dislike these lists. Why? Because they’re all measuring depreciation vs. MSRP, NOT what you actually pay for a vehicle. They’re quite literally measuring something that DOESNT MATTER to the consumer.

Take the Ford Taurus. It’s fifth worst on this list with an average 3 year old price of $18,098.

Now look at the…

Why does it matter? Because it will come down to operational cost.

If I can buy a car that takes 60 kWh of electricity from an outlet and it gets me 200 miles of range, I’m going to spend less on fuel than if I bought a car that uses 100 kWh of electricity to create enough hydrogen to get me 200 miles of range. When…

yeah- I mentioned that... :)

It’s a smaller battery, but it still is decent sized.

I didn’t mention the huge advantage of EVs over fuel cells, though - not needing an entirely new distribution system for a new type of fuel.

Favorite story about my grandfather - he had to fire someone caught committing a federal crime on the job. Same day he did that, he went home and emptied their pantry and refrigerator and took everything they had over to the fired employee and his family.

Not just that, but you’re likely looking at dual income families, and that new job might not be in the same region, which means effectively TWO people looking for work.

4th: I’m surprised they were even looking at fuel cells still. I simply don’t see them ever taking hold. You have significant inefficiencies in creating the hydrogen to use in the cell, the cells are expensive, you’ll need a decent battery in the car to use with the cell, and batteries are getting cheaper FAST... and…