I agree that this is some straight up cult shit. The JOY thing pinged on my cult radar hard. Redefining language so that outsiders (or the Bible) can be altered and misunderstood for the purposes of group leadership is really, really creepy.

I’ll make a post tomorrow on GT during morning rush. I can think of no funner group to watch the new season with.

I have generally avoided details about these people. The repurposing of the word “joy” into a mandate for service instead of, ya know, personal happiness...is upsetting. Not as upsetting as many of the other facts currently evident, but still very upsetting.

Yep, that’s what I’m saying. It seems true in this case, certainly. Religion seems to generally justify authoritarian behavior and coercion and assault are cornerstones of the authoritarian toolbox.

This comment is dead-on. The entire concept — that sex assault is some lane you can stray down, thinking it’s like any other human interaction — is deeply disturbing.

Let’s all take off from work and make a huge bonfire in Clashtalk/Groupthink and just GROUP BINGE WATCH.

You are right. I don’t think nonconsensual sexual behavior is EVER a norm, especially for children. I do think that most children experiment with age-appropriate sexual behaviors (like masturbation) which the Duggars seem to categorically reject, but clearly that is the last thing that is being described in these…

I mean, statistically and historically, that’s not really the case! Keep in mind that one of the key perversions of religion is the impulse to control other people in every way. What’s better for that than stating you have a special magical connection with the one true God, and that “God” has a few rules for your…

An an awkward moment is when an honest misunderstanding occurs about mutual levels of sexual desire. It happens all the time in college — but it’s not what Anon described. The key phrase is, “He didn’t listen.” What Anon experienced sounds like a sex assault which would have escalated if she hadn’t defended herself…

Kids get curious and do stupid and dopey things...but not to 5 different people. And not in a way that makes their own parents call the cops and send them to creepy fundie boot camp.

Religion is about justifying your own perversions and violent tendencies.

FFS

I mean, I guess this comes down to: HOW WEIRD ARE KINKS REALLY? To me, this is not obscene. Even if — or perhaps especially because — I know what it represents. There are all kinds of weird, pseudo-sexual demonstrations going on in my general environment, most of which go unquestioned, ranging from wedding bands to…

That Cathy Young piece is an absolutely hatchet job. Young is a dyed in the wool anti-woman nutter and that ridiculous piece has become the Bible for the “facts” of Nungesser’s accusations as they are repeatedly recapitulated by rape apologists.

That poor woman. She already suffered so much. And her son!

“It seems like they are being silly” seems to cover 95% of situations where you don’t want to explain the more baroque aspects of adult sexual behavior to children for lack of time.

He looks like a catch! And she seems like a pretty cool MIL!

Yeah, it’s super tone deaf. I know it’s not rape, it’s BDSM...but it has way too many implications to just be thrown in there with a goofy picture of Tiana listening to an iPhone while getting boned.

The Pocahontas one seemed a little out of line right? But I kinda dug Cinderella and I TOTALLY loved Beauty and the Beast.