I thought the pilot was great and I don't know what on earth they were thinking with Day One. Gods. Even Cyberwoman has some redeemable parts.

Rhys ended up being my second favorite character in the show.

Sorry, I didn't see that. My mistake.

Man, I will NEVER ever forgive Gwen for retconning him. And worse the show NEVER addressed it even in "Meat" when she made her big speech about how she couldn't take away his memories. I pretty much hate Gwen.

I agree completely. I loved Children of Earth for it's audacity to kill off major characters and yes I include John Frobisher in that list for that series (and I loved the music for that series as well). But I thought s2 was just excellent minus one episode. Barrowman actually began to act for the camera and dialed…

I could not agree more about Beck Bennett. I can't understand why they didn't give it to him. He is ready-made for that gig.

It took down Samson, why not a Wesen?

I laughed at Nick yelling at all of them and whipping out the knife. I really need for the story to get back to Nick's post-zombiefied Grimm status. Like is he still having those "dead" ish moments or what.

Yep. I made this argument in another thread last week that it is very similar to Strike Back as far as violence and sex. It's crazy that they won't even mention it!

Seriously? WTF? Banshee is a good show and deserves to at least be mentioned in the "what else is on" section. Absurd that they ignore it like it's a shitty show.

Shark Jump? What? No. That's not a shark jump.

Me too.

Neither. It's perfectly rated and is worthy of all the praise it has received.

I don't remember it being as obnoxious and obtrusive and overbearing as it has been in the past 3 or 4 seasons. Didn't Manners pass away during Season4? I feel like the show lost a lot when he passed away. He just had such a great way of directing. He knew how to use the camera to really "love" both Jensen and Jared…

So Say We All. I can only assume it's a network mandated thing and the current showrunners don't want to rock the boat. I know Robert Singer has been there all along but I tend to think that Kripke and Kim Manners(RIP) specifically would not put up with that shitty music.

LOL, that would have been classic.

"Hello, you've reached the King of Hell. I'll call you back when I bloody well feel like it and oh…you are caller 1 billion".

I can only hope it's because they are trying to reset the table with an end game.

I have no idea. Just saying that's what I read. I suppose it could qualify because it's being launched as a backdoor pilot during the SPN regular season and maybe that episode will feature a connection story wise to the spinoff?

I wish I could skip over it but it seemed pretty pointed that we aren't supposed to skip over it. As to Dean's viewpoint, I dunno, I think there has been plenty of give and take on those emotional fronts over the course of the series. It's just pendulumed back to Dean this time. I'm sure it won't last. It never…