the fundamental appeal of sports is about competition. it boils down to winning and losing, so getting it right is paramount. i can see if you’re a casual fan, that replay messes with the vibe of watching a game, but if you’ve played competitive sports, you just want the calls to be right.

papi has already tested positive for steroids

are you struggling to root for your multiple time rapist QB?

sounds good, let’s assume he didn’t “take teams to the finals”.

great, let’s assume you are correct.

jordan spent years losing in the first round of the playoffs.

my point is that holding finals losses against a player makes no sense at all when the other side of the comparison is someone who didn’t even make the finals.

that’s beyond dumb. you want to hold the fact that he didn’t go to college against lebron? smh

right, because based on that picture bill russell is clearly GOAT, tom heinsohn is number 2, and havlichek is number 3. dumb lebron and jordan backers both

because of the over-reliance (ie lazy analysis) on titles won.

then you lose your case.

grant was a solid player over his career and a borderline all-star consistently. bj may have made an all-star team but he was not an all-star.

why are people so f-ing stupid on both sides of this discussion?

that is so dumb.

nope. you know squat-a, especially about 538.

that’s easy. scottie pippen did it.

“It’s hard to overstate that once he won his first title, he never again played a full season with the Bulls without winning one.”

“Also, Lebron’s team has been to 7 Finals now (wow!), and lost 4 of them.”

that’s really a really interesting take. well, except for the fact that it’s based entirely on what you want things to be like instead of, like, facts.

yeah, no. jordan did a whole lot of whining when he was younger, especially about the pistons. he was also doing things like punching teammates he didn’t like.