What does this actually mean? Society isn’t going to load $6 trillion of cash into a rocket and blast it off into the sun. It’s $6 Trillion of smaller transactions over time, as one person or entity requires something and another person or entity provides it. AKA an economy.

We do, but regulations are only enforced when entering a countries borders. This is why many ships shut off 1 engine when they come to port and turn on another.

The infrastructure cost is actually not that much, and even without government, private industry will easily cover the cost. The only thing that is concerning is that if they don’t get in the way, like say that solar tariff stuff.

Biofuels don’t solve the issue of local pollution, which is a major problem in many places. Especially dense cities.

On the one hand, I imagine when ICE cars first came out, the relative household incomes of people who were buying cars probably sat pretty close to these.

That 6 trillion is over the span of 20 years, not “now”. And over half of that is spending into the grid which you are going to want to do anyways.

Fuel cells never made it out of the R&D lab. So they were never the future. Lithium Ion is actually a technology that is actually taking marketshare. In sept the #1 selling premium car and #4 selling of all cars was one powered by lithium ion.

Finally, the best response to this article in the entire thread.  Spot on accurate.

I’m guessing that Bloomberg hit piece was subsidized by the Koch (pronounced “Cock”) brothers somehow...

“Clean energy is not.”

Gear 1 - I think that is a bit overstating things, a level 3 charging station costs 50k-100k, compared to a gas station that costs 2 million per station. To cover the entire US in fast chargers every 25 square miles would only require 5658 stations. Every 50 sq miles? 1415 stations. A fraction of the 129,000 gas…

“$6 Trillion Is an Awful Lot”

Fuel cells were never the future. Unlike those, there is an actual maket for EVs.

My daily driver is a 2015 Chevy Spark EV. Living in Boise, ID my electricity is so inexpensive that keeping a close watch on my electric bill, I can’t see an increase in kilowatt hours billed month-to-month compared to the months before I bought this car. Cost of ownership is pretty much the same: car payment,…

Part of that 6 trillion figure is the installation of charging stations and arrays. To be honest, I’d worry more about the power grid and less about the charging arrays, and spend more effort on simply educating consumers on transitioning to BEVs- in other words, I don’t think anybody *needs* to spend 6 trillion to…

It would be great to see a writer or a collective of all the writers do a post on the changing needs of the “gas station” and that model we have had for the last 100 years. The history of it, and where it is going and how it will have to change.

I’m more of a tech guy than gear-head, but when it comes to the 6 trillion or so you’re talking about - its nothing compared to the cost of not doing it.

“gas stations” will not be needed at the same level.

No more than internal combustion engines are facing a 6 trillion dollar problem trying to reach improved emission and mileage standards. Remember when we changed the law about how gasoline was stored and about half the gas stations in America got dug up and replaced? That’s an ongoing project and it probably isn’t…

1st Gear: And how does that number compare to what is spent on maintaining and expanding oil/gasoline infrastructure? And how does it compare to building out hydrogen infrastructure?