x2 what Hammer said. Also, the towing capacity of any Wrangler-based truck will be more about recreation than work.

That I can’t explain, just makes sense to me to quote it.  I guess because it’s just the bro-jeep standard.

rumor is the frame is 33 inches longer than the JLU

It’s my understanding that payload and towing in that class isn’t as much hardware limited as it segment appropriate. i.e. the ride/capacity target is right in the 6500/1500 lbs towing capacity/payload range so that buyers get the capability they will actually use before stepping up to full size and still enjoy the…

New Forward Control brah.

Nah, Comanche Renegade....

I would love to have a Jeep truck. Two things are holding me back on this one. First, the wheelbase is going to be enormous. It just looks wrong to me. Second, why aren’t the rear doors full sized? On the Wrangler Unlimited, the rear doors are smaller, because they would otherwise run into the wheel wells. But that’s…

Whoa! There was a time before this 2019 heap. 

It looks - fat.

It becomes larger when you click on the magnifying-glass symbol.

17 year old me would have never believed there would be a day that BMW would put out a 500+ HP convertible that can do zero to 60 mph in just 3.6 seconds and I would think, ‘meh’, but here we are. 

Polarizing opinion: the 8 is not pretty.

And the steering wheel is not even aligned with the center of the seat. It’s shifted to the left a bit

That driver’s cockpit looks tiny and cramped for such a massive car. 

Not sure what I was expecting. Looks kinda bland. 

Still sell the Fusion Energi its a plugin with a 20 mile range as well. Wife had one for a year and really liked it. Replaced it with a regluar hybrid and she hasn’t been as happy with it (still likes it though, just not as much). The cars exist and have existed ... people just don’t seem to buy them. 

“FCA is supportive of the debate with California, but if that doesn’t work out, then the EPA should definitely revoke the state’s own regulations and mandate the sale of electric vehicles. This, from a company whose recently reported most profitable brand was Jeep.”

Why can’t they just sell the cars that comply with California’s regs to everyone? Why would they have to build two versions if they don’t want to?

they also do not want to have to build two cars that adhere to two different sets of standards for one country.

removed the seat closest to the sliding door.