On one of Cruise’s public videos, you can see what many would consider a drug deal go down around the corner from our house. The kids got a kick out of watching it: “Look! That driver ahead of the robot car forgot his lunch and the nice guy in the house brought it out to him.”

“The real strong point was the excellent driving position and outward visibility which was WAY better than the high sill, small windowed, behemoths of today.”

So you’re saying this SPAC-a-pa-loo-za was a bad idea?

When is the 4xe PHEV version coming? Even with 20 miles of electric range, that will be a significant drop in fuel costs, which can be used for things that buyers of Grand Wagoneers spend their $ on...

If that client didn’t like visibility - especially to the sides and rear -  the Mazda 3 or Camaro is a great option.

So true.

Why is the belt line so high and the windows so small? How did Mazda forget that stellar outward visibility is part of what makes driving great? Or did they simply interview the dozens of people who recently bought Camaros and use that as their benchmark?

“That gives the big luxury SUV...fuel economy that makes OPEC members send owners thank-you cards.”

This. I am all for analyzing the environmental impact of the EV supply chain and the electricity that power the EVs. That being said: let’s do the same for incumbent vehicles and gasoline/diesel as well as all the all alt fuels.

Seems like the military would benefit from battery swapping ala Gogoru. Make it a standard size and then design a modular, scalable system based on use case.

Yup. Just pick an end date with no per OEM limit. Let the market take care of the rest.

Also, the plug-in hybrid RAV4 is pretty awesome with this trifecta:

Mom and Dad saved up and bought an ‘86 Astro, two-tone brown-and-tan with two rows of bench seats. It sat eight, although those in the way back got little-to-no ventilation (maybe that was a feature, not a bug). It served us well, including the summer a few years later where Mom and Dad bought a used pop-up tent…

Thanks. I was. How’s the outward visibility?

1. Why can’t you get the PHEV version with a middle bench seat?

Wow... that horrific outward visibility specially from the back seat. Reminds me of getting in the back of the Chevy cop car at the elementary school fair back in the 80s.

Ooh... thin pillars and low beltline: heaven.

“Hail ants.”

Came here for this. My brother and sister have had five Subarus and 14 head gaskets before the two of them.

x2. You can still get them on the base Suburban and Tahoe.