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Seriously: who are those four?

How about zero tailpipe emissions? See Jon Myer’s comment in this thread for further commentary. Also, it’s not just CO2, but the little bits known as NOx, SOx, and PM that impact air quality and our human health. Better to have that exhaust coming out of power plants much further from our lungs than from the tailpipe…

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There are counties in the U.S. with 18% EV market share (rolling 12 month sales average):

Well-said. Let’s put this on a t-shirt. 

Yeah, San Francisco resident here. The headlines are writing themselves. Between the recent antics of the school board and the DA (both of whom acted extreme enough to get a recall election passed) and now the behavior of the Board of Supervisors, folks around here are starting to say enough is enough. Why is the…

Exactly this. It was a rush to grab spots (and meet deadlines). Not enough $ and time went into making sure the product worked across all four vendors. One of the four indeed is now being ripped out.

I agree with you. Customers need more options that plug in, but there aren’t many today. 3/25 is not a winning record.

I agree. I would be curious to see who is living in those RVs along El Camino and what led them there (and then what can be done about it).

So we should all live in plywood huts with a corrugated metal roof? When are we going to break the cycle of “cheap up front but expensive to operate and maintain?” Some of the requirements are quite inexpensive, like making sure there is a 240V circuit in the garage and panel space for a future EV charging station. If…

Funny how discussion like this often miss the first point: do EVs exist in the shapes and sizes that we Americans love? Of the top 25 best-selling cars in the U.S., only three have a plug-in version: the RAV4, the Wrangler, and the Escape. The Grand Cherokee PHEV is coming as is Lightning in Spring 2022. 

I’d buy it, and swap the drivetrain (engine, transmission, transfer case, and axles) in a Jeep Willys Wagon. And before the pitchforks come out, that’s where the engine originated.

Luxury is outward visibility - thin pillars and low beltlines.

So how do they adjust the selling price as the features get removed one-by-one?

Lion has been around a while. When I visited them, they were brutally honest about what they could do, what they couldn’t do, where they were going, and why.

I love old Willys, but that FC might need some significant work just to get it structurally sound.

This is awesome. I look forward to this future... way better than letting the classics rust into the ground.

A previous owner of my ‘66 Gladiator swapped out the pie plates for driving lights:

Not sure, but Willys didn’t win the trademark battle for the word “Jeep” until 1950. Maybe this is why they added these brass ‘Jeep’ badges on the lowe cowl just for a few months in mid-1950: