That horse is dead. We aren’t talking about a Corolla here. Any SUV could easily give up 8HP and never see a real dip in their already crappy mpg.

Justification for more regulation. Which is probably the point.

Not to nit pick but my gosh those seats look awful. And yes, I know that they are pretty standard for a fighter.

It was a great buying experience. And all the dealer installed options were potentially very cool.

I had an XB. It was a surprisingly great car. The five speed was great and it would really haul for what it was. If they would make a V6 TC I would buy it. Or I would have. That would have been a very fast car. And shockingly roomy and comfortable. Heck, I have been considering getting a four cylinder for my business.…

You make good points but there is a massive difference in payload. And the 747 could use two air crews to man incredible loiter times. Personally, I love the B-1. I wish we had build 500 of the things. And, in my opinion, a non stealthy range of aircraft are still a better bargain now that the technology exists to…

Buy fifty and replace at least half our carrier force.

What would 50 B-747s cost? The benefits would be enormous. And really, this whole idea makes aircraft carriers almost obsolete.

Isn’t it true that they named this car after Charleton Heston’s girlfriend in Planet of the Apes?

Great catch! I’ve never heard of this.

Why would it have to be massive? The Turkish army is a real army, not a bunch of guys running around in Toyota Hi Lux trucks. They could annex that area to “save the people from ISIS” and rule it with tanks as a fait accompli. At least they could have before the Russians intervened.

All this even handedness and projection can cloud one’s thinking. The current leadership is pretty hard core Islamist but they don’t show their hand very often. If they can profit from the corruption brought on by ISIS and use the instability they bring to the region to expand their influence and maybe their…

You are pretty far off the mark here. To the South of Turkey are the Turkmen. And pretty much the whole area was part of the Ottoman empire which the current, Islamic leadership of Turkey would like to restore as the Caliphate.

There were 54 built. Going by Wikipedia (I know) we should have about 20 left that haven’t been scrapped.

MAN INTERNATIONAL has 522 departments? What if you sent your check into Dept. 521? Did you get the fake bush for the sparsely clad ladies?

I spent two years in Turkey back in the 80s. They were under military rule at the time. Very secular place. Much has changed. Thanks for input.

Just going by this alone, the Turks are aiding ISIS.

You were going to build an igloo when you had a truck to sleep in?

We have about twenty of these speedy monsters just waiting to be brought back to life and uparmed.

Looks like we might have as many as twenty of these that could be brought back into service and armed up at a comparatively small cost. Not stealthy but very modern with gas turbine engines. Our navy has made even worse moves than the air force.