2nd gear: I also think sales being down in Europe is because Europeans are much more pragmatic about these things, perfectly content to sit out a ridiculous market, as opposed to US buyers who not only accept abuse, but continuously beg for more.

US Buyer
OMG if I don’t trade in my perfectly acceptable, nearly…

Plus with Consumer Reports neutered of all its pricing information on new cars, can you even find out what the invoice pricing is anymore?

Or, for the same money, instead of buying something that screams you are desperate for attention and have no taste beyond what’s in your mouth, you could buy a stunning 1964, 1965, or 1966 model (closed or open) and have enough money left over for a spectacular driving vacation.

Nearly everything coming out of KIA and Hyundai in recent years has ranged from quite nice to gorgeous, so I guess it was high time they hit a sour note, and man did they hit it hard. This is positively ungodly. No, it’s worse than that, it looks like the generic crap that comes from VW when they try to copy Mercedes.…

That’s the problem. Those cars are ugly.

The Vegas (and Monzas too) with the buttery soft engine block were bad cars, but the with any of the other motors it was a damn good package, a great setup for the front seat occupants, comfortable, fun to drive, decent trunk room. It’s still a damn good looking design today. I kept mine until 1985 and it had zero…

The fact that you selected a Pacer wagon for the lead in photo for worst cars of the 1970s proves you are in the wrong profession.

My takeaway is the exact opposite. I was very excited about Bronco, but what we got was a big letdown. Aside from the name, there’s absolutely zero about it that’s retro. I was hoping for a less heavy, less bloated, sharper priced base 2 door, but instead we mostly got a “Bronco Family” filled with fancy 4-doors for…

Ye Olde Low Ass Bridge

How the hell is this not winning as a nice price?

Yes, it is, and the price of admission would be about $60K for a nice one.

It did indeed get very little coverage as this is the first time I’ve read about it.

I parked next to an example of the current generation last week and was astonished at how massive they’ve become. The first generation had a cool, purposeful look about it, but every generation since looks like a scaled down minivan to me.

If you were on the fence before (I wasn’t), Hummer is the glaring proof we should have let GM go under.

I don’t mind them. The 2019 chimes sound better than my 2009.5 and 2012 models. The 2012 was really grating. 

Because Musk is such a fawker, Tesla is off the table no matter what. I wouldn’t even drive one now if they were free.

Oh, for fuck’s sake.

This business model will only succeed if people are stupid enough to accept it. Oh wait, we’re fucked.

CODE BROWN.

That’s a beyond terrible name.