See I battle with the idea that the show did her wrong. I think the show portrayed her fine...but misogyny is so deeply ingrained in our culture that people walked away thinking she was worse than the rest. 

I watched 2.5 episodes, then could stomach no more of these people. Saff seemed like the only decent one.

I, like millions of others, watched Tiger King and I walked away with two conclusions. First, this country is packed with crazy people and second, all the main tiger people were terrible, awful people I wouldn’t trust with a rusty nickel, much less the welfare of a big cat.

Fyi, Saff prefers male pronouns. I agree that he is one of maybe 3 or 4 semi-decent people on that show.

Agreed. And maybe I missed it but I don’t remember her, crying or being sad or even saying she glad that her dead husband at least brought her love of exotic animals in her life. ( I know they didn’t have the best marriage )she talked about her missing dead husband like he was an acquaintance or co worker.

I’m sorry, maybe I’m not reading the statement correctly and I don’t get that this is sarcasm, but this is just not true. Circumstantial evidence is still evidence.

rightfully upset?

I’m only commenting so I can tell you how much I’ve appreciated reading the reasonable, nuanced comments you’ve made throughout this whole discussion. The internet would be a much better place if more people were even half as thoughtful. I mean it. 

At the elite level, women are not beating men. Look at the qualifying standards for men v. women in the Olympics for the longer distances. It’s not even close and yet!! women are closer to men in the longer distances.

Because men who is 5'5 are dramatically stronger, quicker than women who are 5'5 (or women who are 6'0 for that matter). You’d be nuking women’s sport.

Sadly no. Because if you didn’t transitioned with hormones before puberty. Your body develop the bone structure and muscular structure of a man. And in every sport, if you look at world record there is a huge gap, between men and women. We got 100 years of data to back it up.

I posted this as part of a reply to another Trans-athlete article a few weeks ago. The point stands and is in fact more salient here than it was when I last posted it:

And before anything else, I still have not seen a definite or, to be honest, even indicative research on what is the benefit, if any, of transathletes have in their sports, especially if they are transitioning from male to female.

This is what drives me fucking insane as a trans woman. Because on the one side, you have a ton of cis people saying things that are just blatantly incorrect because they don’t understand just how much HRT changes your body, especially if you start young. To give you an idea, I started at 19 and the movement of my…

I agree. The “like it or lump it” argument fails, and hands ammo to those who want to push trans folks out of public life at the same time. There are plenty of orgs that have common-sense rules regarding hormone therapy requirements for trans women and girls who want to compete, and I think that that is the winning…

I say this as someone who is a trans reader and longtime commenter here: this article does not really help to advocate for trans issues. The idea of “variation exists, therefore it’s fine” does not adequately address this issue. A better set of arguments is:

Well said. I agree that it comes down to the facts and the facts are that males excel at various athletics bc of their biological composition being different in areas. It just - IS. Hence the separation of male/female athletics. I do understand their frustration as they are competing with a naturally born male who was…

I don’t think comparing a short basketball player to a tall one is the same as comparing sprinters.

Even while I was hesitating clicking on the article in the first, I still ended up being utterly baffled by the really twisted logic here. And before anything else, I still have not seen a definite or, to be honest, even indicative research on what is the benefit, if any, of transathletes have in their sports,…