my dude everybody knows that Baba Yaga is Russian, but maybe Putin has met her and doesn’t like her because she’s a strong woman, so La Llorona is the spoiler? HOW CAN ANY OF US KNOW?

The guy I was debating with did the whole nine. Pulled out charts, statistics, etc...but I later realized it was to create a sense of hopelessness. It was trying to flood the zone to induce paralysis in the debate. Like, since we can’t talk about EVERY group, then we shouldn’t talk about ANY group.

They are. Because you can typically tell from the start when someone is set in their opinion and unwilling to budge on that and you know not to waste your time. But some are so good at ‘concern trolling’ (never heard that before but love it) that you think you have a chance to make a positive impact on someone’s…

On one hand, I’m glad they are less than half the comments, but on the other I’m disturbed by the number of comments to the effect of “Well, he didn’t do anything illegal” as if someone doing something illegal is the only thing to post about. The article even makes note of that fact that this is mostly stuff that…

I’ve noticed this same thing - but only about race - when The Root came on line. I’ve seen some (almost exclusively) white “woke” dudes from Jez go over to The Root, park out in the comments, and #wellactually every post over there. I was arguing yesterday with a dude who was using what I consider to be an racial…

Exactly. The men who actually want to be good allies should be talking to their male friends about feminism and how to be decent men, and amplifying the voices of other women, as well as listening more and speaking less.

It shows some real dedication. Would be cool to see guys with that kind of dedication to real life feminist organizing and action. I’m sure they’d have a lot more interesting things to say if they did so as well.

THANK YOU for pointing this out it’s almost like I know EXACTLY who you’re referring to and wonder wtf their deal is EVERY fucking time I see their posts on EVERY fucking article

Yes, this! Walk the walk, and talk the talk to other men who really do need to hear it (and will listen more to other men).

I even get that sense that some of these people just spend their days drafting the perfect comment to every single article that comes out. Like what do they even do for a living? By the time I get home from work every article has 900 comments already!

Exactly, same people over and over and over and over again, on almost every thread, saying the most banal shit and get defensive af if you ever call them out on something. The whole game for them is just getting stars to stroke their ego and absolves themselves of any real sense of responsibility in confronting how…

They add absolutely nothing of value or substance and are ubiquitous on almost every thread. Same people over and over. Motherfuckers shut the fuck up already.

Can’t stand it. The same names come up in every article and they rarely contribute anything to any discussion besides re-articulating what is already widely accepted by Jezebel readers. It’s like that Facebook friend who comments on an article about racism with “OMG WTF it’s 2017 how does this still happen?”

There are…

They can go say all of that to the men they know in real life and it would do us all approximately 5000% more good.

Thank you. I’ve personally stopped starring at these obnoxious attempts for validation.

And why then do we need male ‘feminist allies’ to come to our defense then? We don’t. We’d all be better served if men voiced their opinions less and actually organized the men and put their bodies on the line instead of running their mouth about being ‘male feminists’. How about working at a DV shelter? How about…

Guy’s defo a creep.

Has there been any guy who bills himself as a “male feminist” that hasn’t turned out to be a huge creepster at this point?

Very strange.

And there are several of these ‘male feminists’ on this very site who post on every fucking thread trying to be every fucking top comment so they can pat themselves on the back and collect stars and feel like they are the elusive ‘good guy’. It’s always the most bottom of the barrel innocuous comment only designed to…